S2H Scope Interest

[Lionheart]

I mostly shot these 2 scopes in 2025 and into this year.

I got the Maven in 2024 and then picked up the SWFA when it restocked in February.

I like the solid reticle on the SWFA better than the center dot on the Maven.

I enjoy these aspects of the Maven over the SWFA though:

- the mag ring is easier to crank on and the nub on the mag ring points straight up at 6x for a quick visual reference.

- tool-less turret slipping

- I like the zero stop. My 223 zero stops are set at -0.2 for ADI 55gr Blitzking and zero is IMI 77gr Razor Core. My hunting rifle is set for one ammo at 0 and I can just crank on it until it stops and take a peek to make sure.

It's not a hunting thing given the range involved but I like having 10mils to crank around on the elevation knob with the Maven. I don't like having to go up 5 and then start counting again with the SWFA and then track that all back to zero after the shot.

I'm looking forward to your new scope. I got to play with the THLR reticle for a couple days on a ZP5 before I sent it back and your tidied up version of that reticle looks great. It's going to be sweet.

Pretty much my experience also. I will say the weight of the Maven vs the 3-9 SWFA has resulted in me owning one Maven and 3 of the SWFA’s.
But I’m old and the gym doesn’t help as much anymore lol…

 

[Q_Sertorius]

Just saw this thread. Slummed my way through a 6 page discussion on Mils or MOA looking for info. Didn't find much. Have 10 pages left.

Could someone tell me when these will be available and are there pics of them yet?

FFP Mils btw.

There are pictures, but they may be in the “would you buy this scope thread?” If you search that thread for posts by Form, you’ll find them.

 

[Johnwell]

Hard-use owners of the Maven have been turning away because the elevation turret spins when the rifle is being transported or carried. @Shortschaf discovered a larger o-ring that stiffens it up enough to restore trust.

The parallax knob is too stiff. A ranger band provides enough purchase to make turning it satisfactory. It's a cheap rubber band similar to what you would see on a lobster that's for sale.

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But-but-but… that ranger band covers up the parallax markings; how would you know if it’s in yards, meters, fathoms, or cubits?

 

[Nine Banger]

But-but-but… that ranger band covers up the parallax markings; how would you know if it’s in yards, meters, fathoms, or cubits?

I was thinking about all you guys on Wednesday when I was at a school and a 7th grader was explaining to me that a meter is the same as a yard and it is "this big" and he was pointing down to his legs and feet that were spread apart across about 5 and 1/2 12x12" floor tiles.

 

[Rhettster433]

I have never shot with a mils scope, but am looking to het one to try soon. This whole argument seems no different than arguing what the best caliber is for a specific game animal. They all(within reason, dont take a 22lr to hunt moose) work well enough. Some maybe give an advantage but it is enough to warrant buying new guns and selling old ones when you are just scraping by already. If it is no problem for you to spend thousands and make the switch, have at it. But telling everyone else that they need to switch in order to become better shooters is dumb. Practice with what you have, save up some, and switch when you can. Or, if you are not hunting at extreme varying ranges(like me in alabama where all shots are between 50-200 yards) then dont switch at all because it doesn’t matter. But as a young man that is trying to learn more about long range shooting and determining where to start, all i see is a giant pissing contest between stubborn mules. Learn from others, or dont. But arguing is not profitable for anyone. A spirited debate can be but come on guys. I am 21 and shouldnt have to tell you to grow up

 

[solarshooter]

I am 21

lol