Rules of thumb that didn't work out for you

Hoodie

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I've been thinking a lot lately about common "general rules", strategies, and tactics that don't apply everywhere or that I feel I've debunked (at least in my specific context). Some of these things I picked up from mule deer and whitetail gurus, but for the most part I feel that deer are deer, especially mature bucks. Most of the differences in behavior I think are more attributable to habitat and pressure than to species characteristics.

Here's my list of debunked deer theories:


1) Wind based bedding for bucks

I listened to a bunch of Dan Infalt stuff and went out and checked every leeward point I could find in my huge hunting area. Lo and behold they all had deer beds. Often with buck specific sign around them. Then I found about the same amount of buck bedding on windward ridges. In my area (West Cascades in N. Oregon) the only real trends I see for buck bedding are upper 1/3 of the ridge, STEEP, and with good visibility of the area below. The edge between big timber and thicker stuff is also a plus, but they'll bed in wide open old growth if it's steep.


2) Blacktail bucks have tiny home ranges

Not in big mountains with small, scattered pockets of good feed they don't. I could see this being true in the valley and true-ish in the coast range where there's more clearly defined boundaries between feeding and bedding areas. Where I'm at, bucks can move decent distances even outside the rut. When you do find a homebody buck it's great because they're way more killable than the roamers.


3) High country deer are migratory

This varies based on the specifics of a given mountain/range. In one area I hunt, the deer migrate 3-4 miles as the crow flies and you don't see them on summer range again until July. In most of my areas, many of the bucks will stay as high as they can year round and will move up and down with snow line. They will tolerate way more snow than you'd think. I found three years worth of sheds off my biggest buck the week before I killed him. They were at the top of the mountain (4200ft). That buck was one of the rare homebodies.


What blacktail theories do you feel like your personal experience contradicts?
 
Following up on Limpet...I too see more good blacktail bucks between 9AM and 1PM. These guys are way too smart and i think they are more vulnerable moving to a daytime bedding area mid morning or getting up for a mid day stretch before laying right back down again.

Bedding:
I find the high altitude blacktails bed wherever it is good as long as it is shady. They seem close to the top where all the wind swirls around with multiple escape routes.

Home range and migratory:
I know the deer in my area migrate down a bit. I am at about 5000 to 5500. I do think the big bucks hold out as long as possible. I think they love there home bed, and will keep it as long as they can drop 500-1000 for food.
 
“Rule of thumb, can’t do much with that, probably shoulda be rule of wrist!”

Bonus points for anyone that can name that movie….

Agree on first or last light not being productive. I’ve seen more mature deer during times other than those two time frames.
 
When hunting southern Oregon, it is often very hot unless you get lucky and get weather. When its hot, you will hardly ever see deer except for first or last light. They tend to bed in heavier timber where it's cool. so that rule may be accurate
 
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