Ruger American Gen 2 Standard vs Ranch

[FruitSnackEnthusiat]

Hello Everyone,

I was curious to get peoples inputs on barrel length for these rifles, or barrel length in general for 6.5 and 6 creedmoor.

I am looking at a new potential rifle, and was looking at the ruger american gen 2, in either a 6 or 6.5 creedmoor eventually. (Everyone can save their opinions on the rifles, plenty of threads and forums with opinions on how it performs). What i am curious about, is they are offering the standard with a 20 inch barrel, and the ranch with a 16 inch barrel. I would be looking to supress this rifle in the near future, so I would like as short of barrel as possible. So I am looking from experience of people shooting either of these calibers in a 20 inch or 16 inch barrel. What are velocities like comparing the 2? I am not a reloader, so I would probably be using the Hornady EDLM factory ammunition in either gun.

 

[AKG]

Rifle shooter.com did some barrel length tests for both cartridges. A Google search of "creedmoor barrel length test" will get you to them. Your results will vary somewhat based on ammunition selection and specific rifle variations.

 

[clperry]

How far do you want to shoot game? I will run the numbers for you.


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[FruitSnackEnthusiat]

How far do you want to shoot game? I will run the numbers for you.


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I found the table AKG referenced, and if I used that as a guideline, I think I’d getting roughly 2500 fps with Eldm factory out of the 16 inch barrel. That looks like I’d be good out to 600 yards, if I’m looking for that 1800 fps to get that expansion.

Am I right clperry or am I missing something?

I think 600 would be my max with lots and lots of practice, years from now


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[huntsman22]

the handiness of the Ranch far outweighs the loss of velocity in the shorter barrel.....

 

[clperry]

I found the table AKG referenced, and if I used that as a guideline, I think I’d getting roughly 2500 fps with Eldm factory out of the 16 inch barrel. That looks like I’d be good out to 600 yards, if I’m looking for that 1800 fps to get that expansion.

Am I right clperry or am I missing something?

I think 600 would be my max with lots and lots of practice, years from now


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What’s your elevation?


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[FruitSnackEnthusiat]

the handiness of the Ranch far outweighs the loss of velocity in the shorter barrel.....

That’s what I’m thinking! I’m a backpack hunter so I’d like the handiness of it. Do you see any velocity pickup with using that suppressor with the 16 inch barrel versus without the suppressor?


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[FruitSnackEnthusiat]

What’s your elevation?


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I’m hunting anywhere from 2k to 7k in North Idaho


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[clperry]

I’m hunting anywhere from 2k to 7k in North Idaho


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Yes. At an average elevation of 4500 ft, you have a 600 yd gun in a 16 inch 6.5 creedmoor shooting factory 140 eldm. The 6 creedmoor only comes in the standard with the 20 inch barrel. That gun shooting 108 eldm factory gets you to just shy of 800 yards.


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[FruitSnackEnthusiat]

Yes. At an average elevation of 4500 ft, you have a 600 yd gun in a 16 inch 6.5 creedmoor shooting factory 140 eldm. The 6 creedmoor only comes in the standard with the 20 inch barrel. That gun shooting 108 eldm factory gets you to just shy of 800 yards.


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thanks for the input! I didn't even realize the ranch didn't come in the 6 creedmoor. I was leaning towards the 6.5 anyway, but I think this is going to push me to the 6.5 for sure, in the ranch.

 

[coyotekilla]

Backfire had a video up where he compared 20" against 24" and found that the difference between the 6.5 prc and creedmoor was also the difference between 20 & 24" pipes.
Personally I went with a tikka upr in a creed, with a 24"

 

[Orchemo]

Anyone see availability on the 20" 6mm creedmore rifles?

 

[Taudisio]

Anyone see availability on the 20" 6mm creedmore rifles?

I too have been watching for this model. I just got off the phone with Ruger. They did not ship them out this week. They told me to call on Wednesday's because that’s when customer service gets the list from the “warehouse” about what models shipped in the past week.

 

[J.C.S]

Yes. At an average elevation of 4500 ft, you have a 600 yd gun in a 16 inch 6.5 creedmoor shooting factory 140 eldm. The 6 creedmoor only comes in the standard with the 20 inch barrel. That gun shooting 108 eldm factory gets you to just shy of 800 yards.


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Could you explain what you mean that’s it’s a 600 yd gun? I’m a new hunter trying to understand.

 

[Tanner]

Could you explain what you mean that’s it’s a 600 yd gun? I’m a new hunter trying to understand.

Often people are referring to the range at which a given load out of said rifle dips below 1800fps for reliable expansion.

Not sure that’s what he is saying here but that would be how I interpret it.