RokStok

id_jon

WKR
Joined
Oct 6, 2018
Messages
721
Location
ID
Why would you not run an arca plate in front of the magwell? That's fairly standard. Am I missing something here? This stock has all the features we need but not designed to clamp into a tripod? Mine is on order so I'm not just trying to throw shade at the project.
Makes it less comfortable to carry, can snag/interfere when shooting off a pack/bag. I don't like shooting clipped in near the balance point, the pivot point leads to more muzzle rise, clipping in farther forward where the scallop is will be easier to manage recoil. Those are my reasons anyway, there may be others.
 
Joined
Nov 7, 2018
Messages
1,386
My Stockys VG2 carbon stock will not flex enough to touch my factory Sporter barrel no matter how much pressure I place on it. Even unrealistic amounts of pressure. Mine is their sendero barrel channel. I’m guessing the Bart 3B Channel MIGHT touch if you really crank on the barrel with full leverage. I’m guessing it will not come close to touching in realistic or even “extreme” field positions.


I’d be very interested in a comparison between the roksrok and stockys VG tikka stock. From following that thread and the VG thread, trigger reach and negative comb seem to be the largest ear differences
 

id_jon

WKR
Joined
Oct 6, 2018
Messages
721
Location
ID
I’d be very interested in a comparison between the roksrok and stockys VG tikka stock. From following that thread and the VG thread, trigger reach and negative comb seem to be the largest ear differences
Flat toe too.

I bondo'd up my VG yesterday, shortened the trigger reach and gave it a negative come, plus raised the butt pad.
 
Joined
Nov 7, 2018
Messages
1,386
Flat toe too.

I bondo'd up my VG yesterday, shortened the trigger reach and gave it a negative come, plus raised the butt pad.

My main point of curiosity between the two will be recoil management. I know the roksrok was designed with this in mind. Before the Rokstok form did say the VG was one of the better or best on the market for recoil magnet with a 0* comb


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 
Joined
Sep 8, 2014
Messages
1,824
Location
Front Range, Colorado
Still have some sanding to do, I'll paint it eventually, but want to shoot it first to see if I want to alter anything first. Put some clear epoxy over the bondo, figured that would be a little more solid, not sure if that's necessary or not.


View attachment 658671
Wrap 1-3 layers of CF over that and you'll be golden. I've done a couple stocks that way.
 
Joined
Dec 30, 2014
Messages
9,946
Makes it less comfortable to carry, can snag/interfere when shooting off a pack/bag. I don't like shooting clipped in near the balance point, the pivot point leads to more muzzle rise, clipping in farther forward where the scallop is will be easier to manage recoil. Those are my reasons anyway, there may be others.

Are you able to keep your wobble as tight by clipping in up front? I've seen Caylen W videos where he likes clipping in further forward as well. I can't get my wobble zone as small when doing that vs @ balance point just because i have more input/leverage on the back half of the rifle vs using the balance point.
 

id_jon

WKR
Joined
Oct 6, 2018
Messages
721
Location
ID
Are you able to keep your wobble as tight by clipping in up front? I've seen Caylen W videos where he likes clipping in further forward as well. I can't get my wobble zone as small when doing that vs @ balance point just because i have more input/leverage on the back half of the rifle vs using the balance point.
Yep. I hold 5ish mils below my poa before locking my anvil, I think that helps. Generally that will put the rifle exactly on target if I let go completely.
 
Joined
Dec 4, 2018
Messages
2,532
The more I’ve shot off a tripod the less I like it. Seemed like a great solution to problematic/difficult shot situations but I’m finding consistency and recoil management to be lacking. I’m going to hold off on adding a tripod attachment point to the rokstock for now and see how my mountain practice season goes without it.
 

id_jon

WKR
Joined
Oct 6, 2018
Messages
721
Location
ID
The more I’ve shot off a tripod the less I like it. Seemed like a great solution to problematic/difficult shot situations but I’m finding consistency and recoil management to be lacking. I’m going to hold off on adding a tripod attachment point to the rokstock for now and see how my mountain practice season goes without it.
It has definitely become less primary for me, but that's more due to speed of deployment. I think if you have time and can pick where you shoot from, its great, but if you're locked in to a specific location and have time constraints, I'm probably looking for another solution first. Definitely agree that recoil management is going to be less consistent/predictable the farther from flat ground you get.
 
Joined
Nov 30, 2022
Messages
726
The more I’ve shot off a tripod the less I like it. Seemed like a great solution to problematic/difficult shot situations but I’m finding consistency and recoil management to be lacking. I’m going to hold off on adding a tripod attachment point to the rokstock for now and see how my mountain practice season goes without it.
I wish I could not use a tripod and I know this stock wasn't designed for me. I mainly whitetail hunt with trips out west. I am normally sitting on public land so a tripod is nice to have the rifle set up and ready to go. I also do a lot of standing and shooting to a tripod is really nice. I will most likely get a saddle for my tripod and just run that my walks are not super far and it doesn't need to be light weight.
 

blkqi

WKR
Joined
Aug 21, 2017
Messages
456
Are you able to keep your wobble as tight by clipping in up front? I've seen Caylen W videos where he likes clipping in further forward as well. I can't get my wobble zone as small when doing that vs @ balance point just because i have more input/leverage on the back half of the rifle vs using the balance point.
At the risk of drifting off topic, I would like to add this point. A lot of PRS shooters using a tripod at the balance point are shooting their rifles with a free recoil method. I have trained with Caylen and he is a big proponent of piloting the rifle and not using free recoil. More training on the rifle yields less wobble.
 
Joined
Dec 4, 2018
Messages
2,532
It has definitely become less primary for me, but that's more due to speed of deployment. I think if you have time and can pick where you shoot from, its great, but if you're locked in to a specific location and have time constraints, I'm probably looking for another solution first. Definitely agree that recoil management is going to be less consistent/predictable the farther from flat ground you get.
I am fairly quick with deploying mine and do actually practice with it..but shooting sticks are wayyy faster and so it flopping down onto my pack or bipod. The wobble may be less with tripod vs shooting sticks but I may be able to close the gap with some more dedicated practice off the sticks.

The jury is still out for me and I’ll continue to shoot with it/practice but if I can get away from the tripod, I probably will try to do so.
 
Joined
Aug 23, 2014
Messages
5,476
Location
oregon coast
The more I’ve shot off a tripod the less I like it. Seemed like a great solution to problematic/difficult shot situations but I’m finding consistency and recoil management to be lacking. I’m going to hold off on adding a tripod attachment point to the rokstock for now and see how my mountain practice season goes without it.
I’m with ya, I thought most of my field shooting would be from a tripod once I mounted an arca plate, but it seems like in the real world for me, kind of the last option

I really don’t like shooting from one, and shooting from the same one I’m glassing with makes it even less appealing.

If I can get the gun low enough to be really stable on my tripod, I could have built a stable shooting position with a pack or bipod much faster

I’m certainly not going to pack a heavier tripod for shooting from at this point, and the tripod I pack isn’t very good to shoot off of, and I don’t like glassing with a ball head. The cons outweigh the pros for me
 
Joined
Aug 10, 2016
Messages
704
Location
Oregon
There’s a time and place for any piece of equipment. My tripod is the last option but something I still want to have in my arsenal. This last season we killed 4 bulls. One off a bipod, one off a rock, and 2 off tripods. The the two off the tripod were both 700+ yards. The lay of the land made it very hard to almost impossible to shoot of anything but a tripod. We were glad we had the SRS arca pic rail up front.
 

ElPollo

WKR
Joined
Aug 31, 2018
Messages
1,700
Still have some sanding to do, I'll paint it eventually, but want to shoot it first to see if I want to alter anything first. Put some clear epoxy over the bondo, figured that would be a little more solid, not sure if that's necessary or not.


View attachment 658671
Nice! Are you planning on going to a flip-flop recoil pad to handle the increased length? I’d love to hear how much eight that adds with the bondo. Been considering doing something similar on my VG Hunter with a lightweight epoxy putty.
 
Top