Rokstok Lite

[Tanner]

23-24oz is a pretty damn nice number for a functional stock. I’ll be in for one.

 

[Brewski]

Maybe in a couple years the Superlite Rokstock will be ready!

 

[HighUintas]

If y'all are concerned about weight you can take the butt pad off and dig the foam out of the buttstock to drop a couple ounces.

 

[Nine Banger]

Is the rokstock a sandwich structured composite?

It's more of a taco structure.

 

[Ishootgunssometimes]

I went to shoot my Kimber Montana the other day, that I haven’t shot in a while. My current rifle is heavier. I was surprised to experience how the Kimber was basically too light, too wobbly. A dream to carry on a hunt where you’re walking far (which is why I bought it) but as far as being a good setup for lots of shooting it wouldn’t be my favorite setup.

I’m fine w a rokstok at 24 oz. I’m eyeing the wood version too.

 

[Tanner]

I went to shoot my Kimber Montana the other day, that I haven’t shot in a while. My current rifle is heavier. I was surprised to experience how the Kimber was basically too light, too wobbly. A dream to carry on a hunt where you’re walking far (which is why I bought it) but as far as being a good setup for lots of shooting it wouldn’t be my favorite setup.

I’m fine w a rokstok at 24 oz. I’m eyeing the wood version too.

I would agree… if you’re trying to pair lightweight with long range accuracy, there is a point of diminishing returns. If a guy can get to 8lbs with scope and suppressor, that seems to be a pretty happy medium. My 16” 6.5 Creed Montana is good to 600 on 2 MOA targets, but much beyond on that I struggle with it a bit (could also be my eyes struggling with 9x on the top end).

With an 18-20” number 2 or similar contour, 24oz scope, and an RS light with a sub 8oz can on the end, it would probably make a very nicely weighted rifle that can still reliably bang out past 800.

 

[cuerro viejo]

I hear a lot of stock manufacturers say this, and yet how they design and construct their composites stocks indicate otherwise.

Is the rokstock a sandwich structured composite?

Technically all composite stocks are a sandwich structure if they have a fill.

 

[Speaks]

I went to shoot my Kimber Montana the other day, that I haven’t shot in a while. My current rifle is heavier. I was surprised to experience how the Kimber was basically too light, too wobbly. A dream to carry on a hunt where you’re walking far (which is why I bought it) but as far as being a good setup for lots of shooting it wouldn’t be my favorite setup.

I’m fine w a rokstok at 24 oz. I’m eyeing the wood version too.

I spent years and a bunch of money chasing upland shotguns that were ultralite, approaching 5lbs. I have some real fine English guns with hand tapred barrels made to minimize weight and still have good balance. What I eventually learned is that I cant shoot a shotgun that weighs less than about 6.25-6.5 lbs and I am right back to a pretty standard 686 and if I was ordering a new one today I would go from 28 to 30 inch tubes adding a few more ounces.

Right now my 223 weighs in a just over 8.5 lbs and I plan to reduce a few inches of barrel, switch from a mavin to a swfa, and move it to a rokstock lite which should put me in around 7.5 or a little under which I think is likely the sweet spot anyway. My 6cm will be roughly the same and I will leave the 6 PRC heavy.

 

[Formidilosus]

7.8lbs as it sits. 7.5lbs is about the lightest rifle system I’ve ever seen anyone be able to shoot worth a flip on demand. That’s just group shooting from a rest- that isn’t field shooting under stress, spotting their own shots, follow-up shots, etc.

16” 223.



24oz stock
21oz scope
7.4oz suppresor
Scope caps
Rings
Cheeckpiece
Bolt knob
Tape



People put the cart before the horse so very often. Is not the goal the most optimum rifle to carry and kill with? For almost no one is that a 7lb all up rifle. And by “almost no one”, I really mean- no one.
Is it that you really need 2oz lighter for hunting? Do you really want something lighter for shooting? Or is it more likely that you are looking at numbers on a screen and it becomes a subconscious game/drive of “gotta be lighter”? Has lighter become the actual goal, and not hitting targets and killing animals on demand?

 

[Sundodger]

Technically all composite stocks are a sandwich structure if they have a fill.

Nope, needs skin on both sides of the core material.

 

[Sundodger]

7.8lbs as it sits. 7.5lbs is about the lightest rifle system I’ve ever seen anyone be able to shoot worth a flip on demand. That’s just group shooting from a rest- that isn’t field shooting under stress, spotting their own shots, follow-up shots, etc.

16” 223.
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24oz stock
21oz scope
7.4oz suppresor
Scope caps
Rings
Cheeckpiece
Bolt knob
Tape



People put the cart before the horse so very often. Is not the goal the most optimum rifle to carry and kill with? For almost no one is that a 7lb all up rifle. And by “almost no one”, I really mean- no one.
Is it that you really need 2oz lighter for hunting? Do you really want something lighter for shooting? Or is it more likely that you are looking at numbers on a screen and it becomes a subconscious game/drive of “gotta be lighter”? Has lighter become the actual goal, and not hitting targets and killing animals on demand?

I am sure that’s where most people are coming from, but not me. My angle is an optimization angle.

With better stock design and manufacturing techniques you can drop weight while increasing strength. Then you are free to put that weight savings into other areas where it’s more valuable. Maybe a larger barrel contour, heavier duty rings, better scope, stiffer bottom metal, bigger suppressor, a buttpad with lower transmissibility, etc.

 

[180ls1]

7.8lbs as it sits. 7.5lbs is about the lightest rifle system I’ve ever seen anyone be able to shoot worth a flip on demand. That’s just group shooting from a rest- that isn’t field shooting under stress, spotting their own shots, follow-up shots, etc.

16” 223.
View attachment 990191


24oz stock
21oz scope
7.4oz suppresor
Scope caps
Rings
Cheeckpiece
Bolt knob
Tape



People put the cart before the horse so very often. Is not the goal the most optimum rifle to carry and kill with? For almost no one is that a 7lb all up rifle. And by “almost no one”, I really mean- no one.
Is it that you really need 2oz lighter for hunting? Do you really want something lighter for shooting? Or is it more likely that you are looking at numbers on a screen and it becomes a subconscious game/drive of “gotta be lighter”? Has lighter become the actual goal, and not hitting targets and killing animals on demand?

Any thoughts on an upper weight limit or where the diminishing returns are there?

For example, my target bow (I only hunt) is like 10oz heavier and 5" longer than hunting bows, I could never go back to a hunting bow, I shoot it that much better. To me, that size/weight tradeoff is nothing.

 

[Ryan Avery]

This is about as lite as I can go and still spot 75% of my shots with a 6UM and the RS lite in field shooting positions. Put it in a Rokstok and I'm spotting 90%+. Put it back, into a Tikka Factory stock and I'm less than 30%

 

[Gstew1930]

This is about as lite as I can go and still spot 75% of my shots with a 6UM and the RS lite in field shooting positions. Put it in a Rokstok and I'm spotting 90%+. Put it back, into a Tikka Factory stock and I'm less than 30%

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Which magazine are you using? Mine came with a 6.5 prc mag. Is this the 300 wsm?

 

[Ryan Avery]

Which magazine are you using? Mine came with a 6.5 prc mag. Is this the 300 wsm?

Long action magnum

 

[Gstew1930]

Long action magnum

Thank you

 

[180ls1]

This is about as lite as I can go and still spot 75% of my shots with a 6UM and the RS lite in field shooting positions. Put it in a Rokstok and I'm spotting 90%+. Put it back, into a Tikka Factory stock and I'm less than 30%

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Sounds like a "no brainer" for it to wear the regular RS then? At least with the 6UM.

 

[Ryan Avery]

Sounds like a "no brainer" for it to wear the regular RS then? At least with the 6UM.

For me, it's hunt-dependent. Am I by myself? What kind of terrain?... That rifle above is damn nice to pack around, and no question it's the best field shooting stock at 23-24oz or less.

 

[cuerro viejo]

Nope, needs skin on both sides of the core material.

It does thus why it’s a fill, no different than an injected or cut foam boat stringer.

 

[Formidilosus]

Any thoughts on an upper weight limit or where the diminishing returns are there?

For example, my target bow (I only hunt) is like 10oz heavier and 5" longer than hunting bows, I could never go back to a hunting bow, I shoot it that much better. To me, that size/weight tradeoff is nothing.

Not really on shootability. 15lb rifles are easier to hit with from a rest than 10lb rifles. From all position field shooting- around 11-12lbs is where the upper limit seems to be. My preference is 9-10lb.