Rokslide Members Definition of DIY

[PhillyB]

I am curious what everyone thinks a DIY hunt is?

Can it be considered DIY if you are riding horses in and out? If you use a horse, you are not doing it yourself.

What about other means of carrying part or all of the load in and out? If you use a meat packer, you aren't doing it all yourself.

To me... DIY means everything is done by the individual hunter. You carry the entire load in and you carry the entire load out. No horses, pack mules, llamas, etc... just the hunter, his pack, and a good set of boots.

What do you guys think?

 

[CrzyTrekker]

To me... DIY means everything is done by the individual hunter. You carry the entire load in and you carry the entire load out. No horses, pack mules, llamas, etc... just the hunter, his pack, and a good set of boots.

+1

It also implies a hunt on public land, IMHO.

 

[Sea37]

It's not backpack hunting, but using horses is still DIY. Ask Robby what he thinks. I have never used pack animals but I'm sure they have there own complications for the hunt.

 

[fillthefreezer]

I am curious what everyone thinks a DIY hunt is?

Can it be considered DIY if you are riding horses in and out? If you use a horse, you are not doing it yourself.

What about other means of carrying part or all of the load in and out? If you use a meat packer, you aren't doing it all yourself.

To me... DIY means everything is done by the individual hunter. You carry the entire load in and you carry the entire load out. No horses, pack mules, llamas, etc... just the hunter, his pack, and a good set of boots.

What do you guys think?

i let my friend pack the stove once, i used it for my boils. does this mean i didnt DIY?

 

[PhillyB]

+1

It also implies a hunt on public land, IMHO.

Good point

 

[pyroducksx3]

I would say it a public land hunt and or unguided. I don't think packing it in or using horses is any less DIY

 

[PhillyB]

i let my friend pack the stove once, i used it for my boils. does this mean i didnt DIY?

Point well taken. There are a number of scenarios where a guy gets "assistance"... spotting for a stalk, cleaning an animal, sharing food and supplies... there are a million possibilities.

But is there a difference between two hunters who carry it in vs. using an animal to carry the majority of the load?

 

[fillthefreezer]

so people who get dropped off by a bush plane at a dart thrown at a map gravel bar sheep hunting...?

 

[TXCO]

I think there is a thread on this already. May want to do a search for it.

 

[fillthefreezer]

im not trying to be combative, ive just seen too many of these threads before. maybe you have a different end destination in mind. they just always seem very closed-minded to me. and then some guys join in on the superiority..

 

[muleman]

To me, DIY means no guides, packers, or scouters. If I choose to use pack stock to go in 20 miles, it's DIY as long as I'm the wrangler. I also consider sharing gear if there are multiple people on the trip to be smart and still DIY. For instance my petite 65# daughter is starting to hunt this year. When we backpack in should I make her carry her very own stove and shelter so she can say she did it on her own?

I take pride in doing it on my own but I don't let it get in the way of enjoying the experience.

 

[tstowater]

Been here, done this thread before. Within the last several months, I think.

 

[Nick Muche]

Some pretty crazy ideals out there from what I can tell... Why make it complicated? If you didn't hire a guide and instead "Did it Yourself", why wouldn't it be DIY?

In regards to horses... You raised them, fed them, paid for vet bills, etc... Why wouldn't that be DIY?

Drop camps? Why wouldn't that be DIY? Not everyone has access to a personal plane... Once that plane leaves or pack string of mules leave I am pretty sure you are "Doing it Yourself"...

Public vs Private land? Why does that matter as long as you are "Doing it Yourself"?

I guess I won't waste to much more energy on this response, because it doesn't matter one bit to me. Get out there, hunt your tail off whether that is guided or DIY or what I have been doing the most of lately and that is "DIWF"... Do it With Friends...

Spend less time worrying about what others think and more time preparing to make the most out of every chance you get to hunt...

 

[PhillyB]

I apologize if this has already been covered. I didn't search before hand.

I didn't intend for this to be close minded or argumentative. I was just hoping to see what others thought. My no means is my opinion the "final say" it's just how I define DIY. To each his own...

Just wanted to start a conversation and see what others thought. : )

 

[gelton]

I would say DIY means that you dont have to HIRE anyone or RENT anything in order to complete your job. Flying into a hunting area is a little different than calling a packer to help pack out your elk or a guide to help you find them. As for horses and lamas if they are your stock and your the wrangler fine by me. And of course, it must be on public land. Then again, I have considered renting llamas, and because I would still be using the heel toe express as transportation, I think I might be able to bend the rules and call that one a do it yourselfer too. In the end its up to the individual - if they consider it a DIY and finishing the job is fulfilling to them then who the hell cares what anyone else thinks - right?

 

[blb078]

Point well taken. There are a number of scenarios where a guy gets "assistance"... spotting for a stalk, cleaning an animal, sharing food and supplies... there are a million possibilities.

But is there a difference between two hunters who carry it in vs. using an animal to carry the majority of the load?

Just because you have an animal doesn't mean it's not DIY, under that logic Indians back in the day weren't DIY to you if they used their horses to get an animal.

To me DIY is non guided, public land. Whether or not you have an animal, 4-wheeler, or 5+ friends with you is irrelevant, it's the fact that you hunted w/o someone being able to hold your hand and tell you if you should shoot or not. One of my hunts this year I'll be using a bicycle to go in most of the way, guess that's not DIY either, even though it's public land, and I've done all the research myself?

 

[Shrek]

To me it's if you are doing the thinking , planning , hunting . You can parse it down to whatever purists form you want but in my book if you didn't hire an outfitter to plan your hunt and pick your campsite and provide a guide to actually think through and find the animals then it's DIY to me. If I hire an outfitter to drop my equipment where I want or come pick up the cleaned meat that is just using tools. Paying someone to scout for you isn't DIY to me but if my friends get together and scout an area it's at least quasi DIY. I'm in it for the fun and as long as my fingerprints are all over every phase of the hunt I'm satisfied.

 

[dotman]

So since we can't fly to a point on a map then wouldn't driving to a point on the map also disqualify the DIY aspect? Same thing. Do we have to walk out our front door and with zero help from vehicles, horse's, boats, shoes, bikes, etc?

To me DIY is just not paying someone to guide you to the game. Everything else ddoesn't matter.

 

[Nick Muche]

And you must kill the animal with your bare hands, because everyone knows that a rifle or bow is not "yourself".

 

[dotman]

And you must kill the animal with your bare hands, because everyone knows that a rifle or bow is not "yourself".

Don't forget you have to be naked otherwise your not doing it correctly.