I've been searching all winter. I was able to try a pair of Crispi Thors from a friend. I like them, don't love them. It kind of feels like I'm walking on stilts......Not used to the high arch (sole). I've been running Danner 452s for years. Like everything about them except I rarely get more than 2 seasons out of them, and they aren't even what I would call water resistant.