Recommend me new mid-late season pants

[spur60]

Here's what I'm looking for:
Abrasion & moisture resistance similar to sitka timberline pants (seat/knees), but with better warmth similar to the sitka dakota pants. Spent 5 days in the SD black hills chasing mule deer and whitetail with the muzzle loader end of december in temps from single digits to mid 30's. Wearing both the timberlines and dakotas in the same temps with the same base layers made me quickly realize the timberlines will be up for sale shortly. Not sure why Sitka within the waterfowl line has the grinder and dakota - similar construction, with one having additional warmth; but in the big game lineup, the mountain pant and timberline are the same cut/cloth, timberline with some additional features but no additional warmth.

 

[Bump79]

I was on a similar search and tried probably 6 pairs. I picked these UA Gore Windstopper pants from a member and I'm so impressed so far. They are Gore Windstopper with a mapped light fleece. Have mesh lined side zips. Whisper quiet face with DWR. Layering underneath it would easily get me low teens on a stationary hunt. I hadn't tried any of the UA stuff but since they started clearing them out I got my dad some. I've been super impressed with all of it.

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Under Armour RR Infil WS HD Pant UA Barren Camo/Blk 1365605-9990 For Sale

www.eurooptic.com

 

[4Truck]

I’ve been happy with Kuiu guide pants over either a FL kiln or Sitka heavyweight base down in to the teens.

 

[sndmn11]

A5 - Rig Softshell Pant - Outlet

Technical Features Wind-Resistant Water-Resistant Breathable 4-Way Stretch Design Details Bar-button closure Hand pockets with mesh ventilation Back pockets with top-flap closure Zippered thigh pockets Articulated knees Inner Fleece Laminate YKK Zippers 4-Point Internal Suspender loops Lighter...

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[The Guide]

I bought a pair of First Lite courrugare foundry pants this year. I have used them from the mid 30's to below zero and find them very comfortable and functional. The zip down vents on the legs are clutch for hard hiking or packing out heavy when you want to vent heat. Padded knees are a bonus for making the final stalk. These are way better than the previous First Lite pants I bought. Scheels had them on sale earlier in the year and I wish I would have bought another pair.

Jay

Corrugate Foundry Pant | First Lite

As you prepare to hunt the elk rut in September or get out for mule deer in the waning warmth of October, you can rest assured First Lite has your pants covered. The Corrugate Foundry pant better regulates temperature, remains silent when moving, and resists the build-up of odor-creating bacteria.

www.firstlite.com

 

[Jake_B]

Love the corrugate and catalyst foundry pants!

 

[The Ri Guy]

I'd be looking at adding zip-off long-johns or puffy pants before changing pants if insulation is the deciding factor.

Fjallraven Keb or Vidda Pro, or Forloh BTM (don't crucify me WKR's, crotch fits better for me than Fjallraven), or Kuiu Talus Hybrid blow the Corrugate Foundry out of the water in my experience. Corrugate Foundry are great for sitting stand, but they suck to hike in in my experience.

 

[The Guide]

Corrugate Foundry are great for sitting stand, but they suck to hike in in my experience.

What issues did you have with them? I'm in my first season with them and wonder if there is something I'm missing. I've got around 10 days in the field with them so far but don't want to experience a failure on a multi day trip.

Jay

 

[The Ri Guy]

What issues did you have with them? I'm in my first season with them and wonder if there is something I'm missing. I've got around 10 days in the field with them so far but don't want to experience a failure on a multi day trip.

Jay

I am super duper hot on the move and super duper cold stationary.

My two largest complaints are the knee pads are absolute sweat factories, and the side-zips let wind through like crazy.

I have to stop and take the knee pads out before I get moving or I'm miserable. That means I then have to go through the noisy hassle of putting them back in every time I stop. Only way to address the side-zips is to wear long johns underneath (too hot when hiking) or puffy/rain pants over the top when stationary.

Otherwise they're awesome pants, just not awesome enough for me. Unfortunately I have 4 pair I now have no use for.

 

[The Guide]

I am super duper hot on the move and super duper cold stationary.

My two largest complaints are the knee pads are absolute sweat factories, and the side-zips let wind through like crazy.

I have to stop and take the knee pads out before I get moving or I'm miserable. That means I then have to go through the noisy hassle of putting them back in every time I stop. Only way to address the side-zips is to wear long johns underneath (too hot when hiking) or puffy/rain pants over the top when stationary.

Otherwise they're awesome pants, just not awesome enough for me. Unfortunately I have 4 pair I now have no use for.

Fair enough. I do layer with long johns and use the vents to keep me cool while hiking or packing out. I'm usually hiking with the zippers down and forget they are open until i cool down. I do see the knees a little warmer with the knee pads but nothing extreme at the the temperatures I've used them at. They are not something I would wear when the temperatures are above freezing for most of the day. The Fjallraven pants you mentioned look interesting. Have you seen them locally or just online? I see Amazon has them.

Jay

 

[NickyD]

I'd be looking at adding zip-off long-johns or puffy pants before changing pants if insulation is the deciding factor.

I agree with adding insulation layers. My timberlines are great for me in those temp ranges with insulation. You’ll be able to cover a larger temperature range with the same pant

 

[boxx]

I have the UA Brow Tine pants. I wore them all of the PA rifle season in the same temps that you mentioned. They did a good job of keeping me warm and dry. The high leg zips were nice for dumping heat after I got done walking and they didnt get hung up on brush when I was walking through clear cuts

 

[spur60]

I'd be looking at adding zip-off long-johns or puffy pants before changing pants if insulation is the deciding factor.

Fjallraven Keb or Vidda Pro, or Forloh BTM (don't crucify me WKR's, crotch fits better for me than Fjallraven), or Kuiu Talus Hybrid blow the Corrugate Foundry out of the water in my experience. Corrugate Foundry are great for sitting stand, but they suck to hike in in my experience.

I'm already wearing quality base layers as mentioned in my first post; and packing in bibs for additional warmth when sitting. They sit really nice between my pack and frame on the MR pop up 28. Just looking for a warmer hard use pant I guess. I'll take a look at the ones you mention. Thanks for the options.

 

[keystone112]

I wore the XKG Preacher Pant 2.0 in November for Wyoming Elk. I had no complaints.

 

[kswaterfowl]

I bought a pair of First Lite courrugare foundry pants this year. I have used them from the mid 30's to below zero and find them very comfortable and functional. The zip down vents on the legs are clutch for hard hiking or packing out heavy when you want to vent heat. Padded knees are a bonus for making the final stalk. These are way better than the previous First Lite pants I bought. Scheels had them on sale earlier in the year and I wish I would have bought another pair.

Jay

Corrugate Foundry Pant | First Lite

As you prepare to hunt the elk rut in September or get out for mule deer in the waning warmth of October, you can rest assured First Lite has your pants covered. The Corrugate Foundry pant better regulates temperature, remains silent when moving, and resists the build-up of odor-creating bacteria.

www.firstlite.com

I really like the corrugate foundry as well.