Received the Vaccine today...

[hutty]

Have worked in public health the last 25 years at Johns Hopkins. Work in infectious disease epi and doing some work with covid. Received my first moderna shot early Jan. Sore shoulder the next day and a little tired. Got my second shot last thursday. Same effect sore shoulder and a bit tired for a day but not enough to keep my out of the blind/pit for the last few days of waterfowl season. Glad I was able to get the shots.

 

[Jcalloway]

Typically a virus that encodes their genome in RNA, such as SARS-CoV-2, and influenza, tend to pick up mutations quickly as they are copied inside their hosts, because enzymes that copy RNA are prone to make mistakes .

Early sequencing suggests that the Sars-CoV-2 may posses a proofreading enzyme that may make it leas prone to mutations.

Could you put this in English for the late bloomers?

 

[oldskool67]

Had to get the Moderna for work. First shot was mild headache and sore arm for several days. Second shot at 1200 yesterday. Felt terrible within a few hours, muscle aches, pain moving around to random parts of my body, and extreme fatigue. Last night woke up around 0300 cold as hell but not classic chills. Today low fever ranging from 99-100 and same symptoms from last night. Just start to feel a tiny bit better at 2200 PST. Hopefully it will blow over before the weekend

 

[zion zig zag]

Had to get the Moderna for work. First shot was mild headache and sore arm for several days. Second shot at 1200 yesterday. Felt terrible within a few hours, muscle aches, pain moving around to random parts of my body, and extreme fatigue. Last night woke up around 0300 cold as hell but not classic chills. Today low fever ranging from 99-100 and same symptoms from last night. Just start to feel a tiny bit better at 2200 PST. Hopefully it will blow over before the weekend

I had my second dose of Moderna Tuesday. I was sick with fever/chills/aches for just under 24 hours. Woke up Thursday like nothing ever happened.

 

[jlh42581]

Wife had it, same as most here. First one went fine, second one she spent the next day in bed but was back to work the following day.

 

[Snowcrest6]

Just got mine, already vaccinated for a hundred things no one has ever heard of....one more won’t hurt.

 

[Drenalin]

Up until a few days ago, I have pretty consistently said that I would get the vaccine when it is available to me. I really don't have any concerns about the virus for me personally (had it and was not impressed), but I prefer not to be the guy spreading it because not everyone would have the same outcome I did. Now I'm hearing you can get the vaccine, but still get and transmit the virus? Could someone with some actual knowledge help clarify the points below?

I understand that the vaccine will take a little time - maybe up to three weeks - to do its thing in your body and that during that time you may be able to contract and transmit the virus. But after that period of time - do you have a 90-95% chance of immunity with the two major vaccines? Meaning, to a layman like me, I don't get the virus and I don't transmit it?

If a caveat to the above is that a person could still carry the virus in their nasal passages thereby making them able to spread the virus in spite of being immune themselves, I can understand that. But is that not such a low risk proposition as to make it barely worth discussing at all? That stinks of fear mongering a little to me, which I get is how news works these days.

I'm just trying to figure out if the vaccine actually protects folks beyond making symptoms milder. If I could get the vaccine, but still be susceptible to the virus and still transmit it, then I'd pass. But if I can get the vaccine and a month later have a pretty good idea that I would not be getting or transmitting the virus, I'd still be on board. There seems to be a lot of mystery around this, but it also seems that a good deal of it could be from misinformation and folks running with a narrative without necessarily having their facts straight.

I'm not particularly interested in long-term effects of either the virus or the vaccine, as it relates the questions posed above.

 

[MattB]

Up until a few days ago, I have pretty consistently said that I would get the vaccine when it is available to me. I really don't have any concerns about the virus for me personally (had it and was not impressed), but I prefer not to be the guy spreading it because not everyone would have the same outcome I did. Now I'm hearing you can get the vaccine, but still get and transmit the virus? Could someone with some actual knowledge help clarify the points below?

I understand that the vaccine will take a little time - maybe up to three weeks - to do its thing in your body and that during that time you may be able to contract and transmit the virus. But after that period of time - do you have a 90-95% chance of immunity with the two major vaccines? Meaning, to a layman like me, I don't get the virus and I don't transmit it?

If a caveat to the above is that a person could still carry the virus in their nasal passages thereby making them able to spread the virus in spite of being immune themselves, I can understand that. But is that not such a low risk proposition as to make it barely worth discussing at all? That stinks of fear mongering a little to me, which I get is how news works these days.

I'm just trying to figure out if the vaccine actually protects folks beyond making symptoms milder. If I could get the vaccine, but still be susceptible to the virus and still transmit it, then I'd pass. But if I can get the vaccine and a month later have a pretty good idea that I would not be getting or transmitting the virus, I'd still be on board. There seems to be a lot of mystery around this, but it also seems that a good deal of it could be from misinformation and folks running with a narrative without necessarily having their facts straight.

I'm not particularly interested in long-term effects of either the virus or the vaccine, as it relates the questions posed above.

I am no doctor, but I have read quite a lot about this. My take is they do not know whether the vaccine will reduce/stop people from spreading virus because that was not within the scope of the Moderna/Pfizer clinical trials.

There is evidence that the AstraZeneca vaccine reduces the incidence of people testing positive who have had the vaccine was 50% lower than those who did not receive it. Looks like the study has not yet been peer reviewed.

AstraZeneca Says Its Vaccine Can Prevent Spread of COVID-19 Virus

The data are still unclear, but its possible AstraZeneca-Oxford's vaccine is the first to slow the transmission of the COVID-19 virus.

time.com

 

[MattB]

NPR piece on the US vaccines. My sense is the benefit of the vaccine at a minimum is to significantly reduce severe incidents of the disease. Fewer people dying (be it from the first or follow-up infections) and less long-term physical damage which has been demonstrated to result in some COVID cases.

I saw a story yesterday of a woman who lost both arms and both legs to COVID. She is still counted in the high 90% of people who survived it...

Why You Should Still Wear A Mask And Avoid Crowds After Getting The COVID-19 Vaccine

It takes time after vaccination for immunity to the virus to build up, and no vaccine is 100% effective. Plus, scientists don't yet know if the vaccine stops viral spread. Here's what's known so far.

www.npr.org

 

[z987k]

I am no doctor, but I have read quite a lot about this. My take is they do not know whether the vaccine will reduce/stop people from spreading virus because that was not within the scope of the Moderna/Pfizer clinical trials.

There is evidence that the AstraZeneca vaccine reduces the incidence of people testing positive who have had the vaccine was 50% lower than those who did not receive it. Looks like the study has not yet been peer reviewed.

AstraZeneca Says Its Vaccine Can Prevent Spread of COVID-19 Virus

The data are still unclear, but its possible AstraZeneca-Oxford's vaccine is the first to slow the transmission of the COVID-19 virus.

time.com

It's almost irrelevant. At some point, we have to just say, ok, it's over go back to normal. Except a bunch of anti-vaxxers will still be getting sick. Which, whatever. Darwin awards for you.

 

[Fatcamp]

Never did have any significant effects from my two doses of Phizer.

As to our floor we are almost clear of Covid patients. They are still there, but nowhere near what we had previously. My last three shifts I haven't cared for any current infections, recovered, but from months ago.

Back to our regularly scheduled nonsense, which while frustrating, is nowhere as draining as dealing with people constantly trying to die.

 

[zion zig zag]

As far as being able to transmit the disease after vaccination, I think that is probably a big question mark with most vaccines. As in, there is not typically large scale testing of vaccinated, asymptomatic populations.

 

[zion zig zag]

It's almost irrelevant. At some point, we have to just say, ok, it's over go back to normal. Except a bunch of anti-vaxxers will still be getting sick. Which, whatever. Darwin awards for you.

The problem is, if we have > 30% or so of the population that denies the vaccine, then we never really reach herd immunity, and it just keeps circulating, right? And then us pro vaccines will have to get yearly boosters?

I wonder how many new "anti-vaxxers" this whole episode is going to create. After the current madness is over are we going to see a resurgence of polio? MMR?

 

[PredatorSlayer]

I am not an anti vaxxer, but probably won’t be getting the COVID 19 vaccine. I don’t get the flu vaccine either - got it once 5 or 6 years ago and it was the first time in years I actually got the flu. I have been going to the gym since they opened last May, don’t wear masks very often and bite my finger nails. I don’t have hand sanitizer on me or in my truck. I traveled out of state several times to go hunting in the last 12 months and even made it home last summer to hang out with family. Lots of planes and hotels and eating out. I have never been tested for covid - I would be shocked if I haven’t had it once or twice and just not known it.

I am sooo tired of the politics behind the virus and the vaccine. We get some dude like the OP getting a vaccine like its some huge deal and he is saving lives by doing it. There is like a 99.5% survival rate without the vaccine...the only reason this is a big deal is because we have been told it is by politicians and social media.

If you are high risk, take precautions, and by all means, take the vaccine if you want to. I respect everybody’s right to wear masks and take vaccines - but you have to respect my right not to do those same things.

 

[fwafwow]

No need for name calling - some may find interest in the thread posted by the OP to see what sort of side effects people are experiencing.

 

[MattB]

I am sooo tired of the politics behind the virus and the vaccine. We get some idiot like the OP getting a vaccine like its some huge deal and he is saving lives by doing it. There is like a 99.5% survival rate without the vaccine...the only reason this is a big deal is because we have been told it is by politicians and social media.

The small % who have died represents ~470K Americans, almost the population of Atlanta and more than the US lost In WW2. But no big deal....

 

[Fatcamp]

The small % who have died represents ~470K Americans, almost the population of Atlanta and more than the US lost In WW2. But no big deal....

Add to that 100's of thousands who will have lifelong effects from the infection. But, whatever.

 

[z987k]

The problem is, if we have > 30% or so of the population that denies the vaccine, then we never really reach herd immunity, and it just keeps circulating, right? And then us pro vaccines will have to get yearly boosters?

I wonder how many new "anti-vaxxers" this whole episode is going to create. After the current madness is over are we going to see a resurgence of polio? MMR?

We'll need to get boosters probably yes, but not that big of a deal. You need to get boosters for lots of vaccines.
The thing about the .5 percent fatality rate, is most people touting that as not a big deal have no idea how probability works. If we go back to normal, the infection rate of those not vaccinate will skyrocket - to near 100% of those people, and at .5%, a ton of them will die in the years to come and/or natural antibodies will come into effect.
Problem solves itself IMO.

 

[lif]

I have a hard time following the directions of people who lie to you about something as significant as this pandemic. And the government , who has been in charge of the protocol for Covid since day 1, have lied through their ass!! My favorite line that people say through this whole ordeal is “let the non mask wearers and anti vaccine folks be victims of natural selection(Darwin)”. I can’t agree more, let us non mask wearing, anti vaxxers be left up to the fate of nature. That’s all we want. Freedom!!!!! We’ll put our fate in nature, and everyone else can put their faith in Fauci.

 

[-bowfreak-]

There is really two types of people not being vaccinated, those that are scared of the vaccine and those that just simply don't feel the need to be vaccinated. You can blame a large percentage of the former group on Democrats and the MSM. They spent the last year doing whatever they could to damage Trump. In hopes of winning the election they did whatever they could to sew the seeds of doubt and create the narrative that the vaccine couldn't be safe with Trump leading the charge.

They spent a year telling people it isn't safe and now are suddenly taking a 180 and telling them it couldn't possibly be safer.

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