Well I am almost talked out of it and I just bought the latest HD model! Dang! I was figuring since it is the late hunt Sept 9-20 ,maybe some snow on the ground, Black bears and wolf that dont stick out like sore thumbs are included if we get lucky, that the 15's might be a great tool. I have used 15's on Kodiak for bear but that was a lot of sitting on points and not buggering up the country with scent and even though this is airplane assisted to the hunting area I would hate to drag them up there and leave them in the tent. The Nevada draw is tomorrow, since I have max point on Deserts and im feeling lucky I will just use the hell out of them then. Of course I thought last year I was going to draw too. LOL! Thanks for the input Roksliders!