Q&A on NF NX6 scope reviews

I think that would have been nice, I'd not find it lacking. I ended up buying an SHVf1 before they disappear because I think I am the weak link it shooting results at this point.

Is the non illuminated LRHS solid on the outer portions or open? I know the LRTSi was solid and the LRTS was open.
Solid, and pretty darn thick.

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Absolutely. Maybe "Echo Chamber" is what bothers you.


No. What bothers me is that using “echo chamber” is in the same vein of “racist”, “bigot”, “misogynist”, “nazi”, etc. It is used by people to try and completely invalidate points or arguments that another is making. To shut down a discussion so that they do not have to engage with the actual point.



Reticle preference is purely differing opinions based on past or present experiences or use case.

Experiences aren’t “opinions”. And preference has nothing to do with those reticles I posted being absolutely trash for aiming in broken terrain until 10-12x magnification.

“Opinions” have nothing to do with 20-30x magnification causing a litany of issues in the field on animals. Issues that are easily, and factually observable in less than five minutes of shooting. People acknowledging or pointing out those issues with high magnification are not “opinions”- they’re facts. Your preference for high magnification is an “opinion”.
 
No. What bothers me is that using “echo chamber” is in the same vein of “racist”, “bigot”, “misogynist”, “nazi”, etc. It is used by people to try and completely invalidate points or arguments that another is making. To shut down a discussion so that they do not have to engage with the actual point.





Experiences aren’t “opinions”. And preference has nothing to do with those reticles I posted being absolutely trash for aiming in broken terrain until 10-12x magnification.

“Opinions” have nothing to do with 20-30x magnification causing a litany of issues in the field on animals. Issues that are easily, and factually observable in less than five minutes of shooting. People acknowledging or pointing out those issues with high magnification are not “opinions”- they’re facts. Your preference for high magnification is an “opinion”.
Your pictures are certainly valid arguments to those reticles not being optimal for those scenarios.

Do you have any 5-600 yard pictures on deer sized game with say a 6x vs 15x?
 
Wait, wait, wait......hold on here. I've never seen a nightforce scope in person. Are these pics seriously a good representation of what they look like in the field?? People hunt with scopes that look like that??

What range and scope power for the first 2 pics?

Lord...I'm going to cabelas today, I need to see this stuff in person.
No, thats a shitty picture of the reticle. Its easier to see looking through them. His point is somewhat valid in that with any FFP reticle at low power against a dark background it can be harder to see. Hit the illumination button if it is a big deal.
 
You tell’em @Rock’N Tacos!

These are fantastic reticles to aim with! These fools don’t know what they’re missing- 32x at 200 yards- yah baby!
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And definitely these pictures taken 15-20 years ago, were all a marketing ploy to sell scopes two decades later-
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If you are telling me you have zero financial interest in this new scope y’all are releasing and no bias, i may take your opinion on these seriously. As soon as you release or market something where you stand to gain financially your credibility and your opinions of products that aren’t yours suffer. Welcome to the business world Form. Also, maybe you can teach people how to turn on the illumination in the shooting classes y’all offer. Its typically a button on the left side of the NFs.
 
No. What bothers me is that using “echo chamber” is in the same vein of “racist”, “bigot”, “misogynist”, “nazi”, etc. It is used by people to try and completely invalidate points or arguments that another is making. To shut down a discussion so that they do not have to engage with the actual point.





Experiences aren’t “opinions”. And preference has nothing to do with those reticles I posted being absolutely trash for aiming in broken terrain until 10-12x magnification.

“Opinions” have nothing to do with 20-30x magnification causing a litany of issues in the field on animals. Issues that are easily, and factually observable in less than five minutes of shooting. People acknowledging or pointing out those issues with high magnification are not “opinions”- they’re facts. Your preference for high magnification is an “opinion”.
Most valid opinions are based on the individuals experiences.
 
In what world is 15x too much magnification for longer shots? I have a few NX8 4-32s and most of my shots have been taken between 25x-32x with them. You are talking personal preferences and stating them as a universal fact.
Nothing annoys me more then when I'm spotting for someone (kids, friends, etc.) and they max out the zoom narrowing the eyebox and field of view and then futz forever to find the target, then shoot and loose sight picture and takes forever to get back on. Maybe you personally are rock solid in target acquisition and follow up shots at 25-32x but know that most aren't. That is a reasonable acknowledgment is it not?

I am just offering a different, obviously unpopular opinion on NF reticles as a heavy NF user - their reticles aren’t a reason not to buy one.
$1800 for something I don't enjoy the user experience (ie reticle) is a reason to not buy something. The whole thing is bizarre because to company has reticles that would be enjoyable but didn't put them in the 2-12.
So my 4-16x42 ATACR has killed 3 moose all within 100 yards at 4x.
You got that messy christmas tree version in your ATACR or a more simplistic one which isn't offered in the 2-12 (and hence folks displeasure)?
 
No, thats a shitty picture of the reticle. Its easier to see looking through them. His point is somewhat valid in that with any FFP reticle at low power against a dark background it can be harder to see. Hit the illumination button if it is a big deal.

Hence why I am going to go look at some in person....I'm also going to get my hands on a SWFA to look at with the help of the community here. And a couple of others probably as well before I make my purchase.
 
No one said you couldn't kill with these reticles, or that they are unusable. What is being discussed is why not optimize an F1 reticle so it's usable across the entire zoom range.

The pile of shit f1 2x12 reticles I wouldn’t dream of putting a client or my kids behind. Way too busy and too many possibilities for mistakes.


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Nothing annoys me more then when I'm spotting for someone (kids, friends, etc.) and they max out the zoom narrowing the eyebox and field of view and then futz forever to find the target, then shoot and loose sight picture and takes forever to get back on. Maybe you personally are rock solid in target acquisition and follow up shots at 25-32x but know that most aren't. That is a reasonable acknowledgment is it not?


$1800 for something I don't enjoy the user experience (ie reticle) is a reason to not buy something. The whole thing is bizarre because to company has reticles that would be enjoyable but didn't put them in the 2-12.

You got that messy christmas tree version in your ATACR or a more simplistic one which isn't offered in the 2-12 (and hence folks displeasure)?
Mine is just the MOAR reticle, no christmas tree and pretty dang simple. I put two shots into an alaskan caribou this year at 375 yards. Zoomed into 32x and put it in both lungs. He jumped, I zoomed out, found him, zoomed back in and put another one in him even though I didnt need to. I didnt have a spotter. I am just saying there is more than one way to do something. I am pretty meticulous when it comes to getting steady and taking shots. I’ll pass if I don’t feel great about it or get myself in a different situation to where I am steady.
 
Is there a better way to take lowlight reticle pictures than just holding your iPhone in alignment behind the scope?


I am asking because almost any day of the year, I have a ready-made platform, facing to the east, with painted targets visible, and right now I have a couple of cows there also. Doing some sort of assessment of when a scope fails, as either an aiming device or an observation device, would be pretty simple for me.

Would it be easier to simply look through the various options and make a note of the exact time that each one tapped out?
 
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