Q&A for Minox ZP5 5-25x56mm THLR scope

[Formidilosus]

Y’all need to get LASIK. It was a life changer for me as someone who enjoys the outdoors.

LASIK or a high bridge…

 

[BAKPAKR]

Yes he does. Or at least did in his long-range shooting instructional DVD set, and other online videos I've seen - for a while, I think he even had some that pulled apart and went back together or something ...

I used to think it looked like a chore to be taking glasses on and off ... and then my eyes shifted in a matter of months and had more empathy.

I've seen different people try various methods - fully taking them on and off is a lot of excess movement. Putting them on top of your head can get in the way of earpro (and make the inside of the lens funky from sweat, sunscreen, hair oil, etc). I've found it works to just bump them down my nose to shoot, and then pull them back up. Can be done with the firing hand at the end of a shot sequence in under a second.

I wear progressive bifocals and I can confirm that they can make getting the diopter adjustment challenging. I ended up having a couple of pairs of single Rx glasses made for shooting/hunting.

 

[Nine Banger]

I set up on my 600 yard gong.



Cliff Notes:

New glasses: diopter set last night.

Shooting glasses: diopter rotated out a slight turn when I switched

No glasses: can't turn it in far enough to get a clear reticle

With both pairs of glasses the target is clear with the reticle readable out to 10x with the parallax set at 50.

At 15x the target is kinda blurry.
At 20x it's more blurry.
At 25x it's very blurry.

At every magnification if I adjust the parallax away from 50 the target becomes more blurry.

If I adjust the diopter to make the target visible the reticle becomes very blurry.

So at 25x I can make the target clear with the diopter all the way out with the parallax at 50 yards but when you turn the parallax is gets blurry AF.

It's like the parralax is installed backwards or upside down or rotated too far.

 

[5MilesBack]

At every magnification if I adjust the parallax away from 50 the target becomes more blurry.

If I adjust the diopter to make the target visible the reticle becomes very blurry.

So at 25x I can make the target clear with the diopter all the way out with the parallax at 50 yards but when you turn the parallax is gets blurry AF.

It's like the parralax is installed backwards or upside down or rotated too far.

Exactly what I've been experiencing. I have not experienced this with any other scope.....ever.

For reference, I wear contacts.......a minus 2.0 in my dominant left eye (shoot LH). But I need readers at +1.75 to +2.00.

 

[rbutcher1234]

Interesting

 

[Schaaf]

I set up on my 600 yard gong.

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Cliff Notes:

New glasses: diopter set last night.

Shooting glasses: diopter rotated out a slight turn when I switched

No glasses: can't turn it in far enough to get a clear reticle

With both pairs of glasses the target is clear with the reticle readable out to 10x with the parallax set at 50.

At 15x the target is kinda blurry.
At 20x it's more blurry.
At 25x it's very blurry.

At every magnification if I adjust the parallax away from 50 the target becomes more blurry.

If I adjust the diopter to make the target visible the reticle becomes very blurry.

So at 25x I can make the target clear with the diopter all the way out with the parallax at 50 yards but when you turn the parallax is gets blurry AF.

It's like the parralax is installed backwards or upside down or rotated too far.

I’ve got the same issue with mine and I don’t wear glasses.

Mine gives a wow factor at 5x, I notice it starts going down at 10x and progressively gets worse all the way up.

I’m guessing the parallax is adjusted incorrectly

 

[wind gypsy]

@EuroOptic - Was there ever any clarification on which run of scopes these are ala "black box" vs "white box"? Never heard of red box runs and we seem to have gotten production models varying from 2020-2022 based on the few folks who pulled dates from the QC cards.

 

[rbutcher1234]

For reference, one of mine appears to do this as well.

I thought y’all were just doing something wrong because the one I mounted was fine.

 

[HuntHarder]

Might explain the "special buy" Euro optic got. Joke... put down the pitchforks.

 

[RockAndSage]

For reference, one of mine appears to do this as well.

I thought y’all were just doing something wrong because the one I mounted was fine.

Sounds like this makes 3 out of the same shipment. Out of, what, 30 of the THLRs?

 

[Wrench]

My mr5 5-25 also suffers the same situation. My 3-15 seems pretty awesome.

 

[Nine Banger]

For reference, one of mine appears to do this as well.

I thought y’all were just doing something wrong because the one I mounted was fine.

Are there any obvious assembly or manufacturing variations between the defective one and the functional one?

 

[5MilesBack]

My mr5 5-25 also suffers the same situation. My 3-15 seems pretty awesome.

That's a bummer. I was thinking about grabbing one of the MR5's to use in place of this scope while I send it back to Blaser.....then Germany. I already sold my NF that was on this rifle, as soon as I got a ship notice on this THLR.

I was talking to Nine Bagger and said I thought maybe they just threw all their returned scopes in the corner of a warehouse and then sold them all when Eurooptic wanted to buy whatever they still had.

 

[rbutcher1234]

That's a bummer. I was thinking about grabbing one of the MR5's to use in place of this scope while I send it back to Blaser.....then Germany. I already sold my NF that was on this rifle, as soon as I got a ship notice on this THLR.

I was talking to Nine Bagger and said I thought maybe they just threw all their returned scopes in the corner of a warehouse and then sold them all when Eurooptic wanted to buy whatever they still had.

Let’s hold judgement on something like that till more is known or one of these gets fixed.

 

[Wrench]

The zero stop setting is interesting. Perhaps the parallax is similar...that would be a simple fix.

 

[propulsionclimbing]

I got one of the THLR ZP5s as well, and there is definitely something wrong with it. I have used a 5-25 ZP5 MR4 reticle for a long time, and it is a phenomenal optic with incredible DOF and ease of getting behind. I was not very pleased when my new THLR exhibited exactly what has been described above. As a long time user of the 5-25 ZP5, I can say definitively that this is not normal for this scope and something is definitely wrong. I haven't reached out to Euro Optic yet but will definitely be doing so.

 

[5MilesBack]

Let’s hold judgement on something like that till more is known or one of these gets fixed.

Speculation is not judgement.

 

[sndmn11]

Exactly what I've been experiencing. I have not experienced this with any other scope.....ever.

For reference, I wear contacts.......a minus 2.0 in my dominant left eye (shoot LH). But I need readers at +1.75 to +2.00.

Are you going north any time soon?

 

[5MilesBack]

Are you going north any time soon?

Not by choice.

 

[Nine Banger]

Mine's boxed back up. What are we doing next?