Q&A for Minox ZP5 5-25x56mm THLR scope

[Nine Banger]

Did anyone get one of the new ones yet?

I was hoping to mess with one this weekend. No dice.

 

[id_jon]

Mine should arrive today

 

[RockAndSage]

Mine should arrive today

Same, mine's supposed to arrive today as well.

 

[Dobermann]

@Nine Banger, @id_jon, @RockAndSage and others - when you get them, post up your reflections here so others have more reference points ...

Again, there was a flurry over on the Hide when they first hit the US, with key posts by Glassaholic, Dave of JustF'n', Big Jim Fish, and others; would be good to collate more hunting- and field shooting-based experiences here.

Also feel free to post questions. @Formidilosus, @mxgsfmdpx, and @Ryan Avery have more time on theirs than I do, but I'm sure one of us would be happy to answer questions.

And remember that @THLR is on this board, so any confusion/concerns should be expressed with respect. Just sayin.

 

[rbutcher1234]

My two will be here Wednesday scoring to tracking

 

[Dobermann]

My two will be here Wednesday scoring to tracking

Let's add you to the list of who we expect to hear from in this thread then.

 

[Nine Banger]

@Nine Banger, @id_jon, @RockAndSage and others - when you get them, post up your reflections here so others have more reference points ...

Again, there was a flurry over on the Hide when they first hit the US, with key posts by Glassaholic, Dave of JustF'n', Big Jim Fish, and others; would be good to collate more hunting- and field shooting-based experiences here.

Also feel free to post questions. @Formidilosus, @mxgsfmdpx, and @Ryan Avery have more time on theirs than I do, but I'm sure one of us would be happy to answer questions.

And remember that @THLR is on this board, so any confusion/concerns should be expressed with respect. Just sayin.

Mine just had a label created. I'll probably be shooting by next weekend. I'm probably going to put it on a 6 creed since it was made for the 6XC.

Can you PM me a link to the best thread you're following over there?

I've been watching @THLR vids whilst reloading if I'm not on a zoom call. I like them and dude is funny; I wasn't expecting all the dead pan.

 

[Dobermann]

Can you PM me a link to the best thread you're following over there?

It wasn't threads as such; just a lot of different posts by mainly those three guys listed above. It will take a while to search through all of the threads that reference "ZP5", but there were some very telling posts - mainly about glass quality, though ... so more of a concern on the Hide than here, for the most part. But the overall point was that people tended to say that the ZP5 was far superior optically than the ATACR (the 5-25 was its most likely competitor at the time), and up there (or better than) S&B, ZCO, and Tangent - which raised some eyebrows.

(And I'm reluctant to say this, but I screenshotted a bunch of these some years ago .. so if you're really lazy, I could have a look and post a few up here. Not sure what the quid pro quo would be ... you commit to sell me your ZP5 for $1500 if you don't like it would work. )

I haven't hung out there much after all the site changes, but the buzz about the ZP5 seemed to die away for a few reasons:

• they were heavily discounted by Blaser at one point and people then got grumpy about resale value
• one of the main retailers posted some cryptic messages about their performance, but would not give details - and then started carrying another major brand
• ZCO and Tangent came to market and grabbed the high-dollar end; Vortex, Leupold, and Burris kept putting out low/mid-tier options; and a raft of "ex Navy SEAL starts new scope brand"-type slop came online for the cheaper crowd (Athlon, Riton, Arken, etc etc etc).
• Also not sure there was ever a market there for the THLR reticle, and while the MR4 had good reviews, lots of competing brands brought other reticles to market and some people chase new reticles like dogs chase cars.

Hope that helps.

 

[Nine Banger]

It wasn't threads as such; just a lot of different posts by mainly those three guys listed above. It will take a while to search through all of the threads that reference "ZP5", but there were some very telling posts - mainly about glass quality, though ... so more of a concern on the Hide than here, for the most part. But the overall point was that people tended to say that the ZP5 was far superior optically than the ATACR (the 5-25 was its most likely competitor at the time), and up there (or better than) S&B, ZCO, and Tangent - which raised some eyebrows.

(And I'm reluctant to say this, but I screenshotted a bunch of these some years ago .. so if you're really lazy, I could have a look and post a few up here. Not sure what the quid pro quo would be ... you commit to sell me your ZP5 for $1500 if you don't like it would work. )

I haven't hung out there much after all the site changes, but the buzz about the ZP5 seemed to die away for a few reasons:

• they were heavily discounted by Blaser at one point and people then got grumpy about resale value
• one of the main retailers posted some cryptic messages about their performance, but would not give details - and then started carrying another major brand
• ZCO and Tangent came to market and grabbed the high-dollar end; Vortex, Leupold, and Burris kept putting out low/mid-tier options; and a raft of "ex Navy SEAL starts new scope brand"-type slop came online for the cheaper crowd (Athlon, Riton, Arken, etc etc etc).
• Also not sure there was ever a market there for the THLR reticle, and while the MR4 had good reviews, lots of competing brands brought other reticles to market and some people chase new reticles like dogs chase cars.

Hope that helps.

I've had the 5x and 4x ATACR. Will weigh in when it's time.

 

[Dobermann]

I've had the 5x and 4x ATACR. Will weigh in when it's time.

I think that will be the easy part ... but there'd be value in posting about everything else.