Pump rifle

[K9kodi]

Does anyone taken seriously make a modern center fire pump rifle for deer sized game.
I’ve been looking at trying to find the old rem fieldmaster, but I’m hard pressed to buy one offline used. Will I use it all the time, na, I like to collect older lever actions and am shoving into the pump rifle market.

 

[peaceman]

What are you afraid of with a used pump rifle? the rem 14, 141, 760 or 7600 are all excellent. The former are limited now to the 35 rem, but the latter in many modern calibers as big as a 35 Whelen. Find a nice one and enjoy the reliability and speed they provide. Personally i use my granddad's model 14 in 35 rem with a factory peep. They're even a takedown model if that means anything.
Browning made a slide action too but I don't have any experience with it.

 

[K9kodi]

Is def for rem or browning, my issue with a used gun I can’t put my hands on is the unknown. I could buy one in gunbroker and get it and it’s all loose and shot out and I have a mantle piece.

 

[Q_Sertorius]

Is def for rem or browning, my issue with a used gun I can’t put my hands on is the unknown. I could buy one in gunbroker and get it and it’s all loose and shot out and I have a mantle piece.

No, you just have a “seller.”

That aside, it doesn’t have to be a complete unknown when you purchase online. If you are serious about buying one, schedule a FaceTime or other video chat with the seller. You can at least verify that the action doesn’t wiggle horribly.

Me personally, after being forced to use a 7600 in .30-06 on one hunt (I got a buck and a doe), you couldn’t pay me to use another pump action rifle.

 

[grfox92]

Me personally, after being forced to use a 7600 in .30-06 on one hunt (I got a buck and a doe), you couldn’t pay me to use another pump action rifle.

Why?


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[Q_Sertorius]

Why?


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Shot terribly. No ergonomics at all. Useless in any supported position. Can’t use sling for support and take advantage of follow-up shot ability. Just smoking garbage.

It’s a miracle I killed the buck with it in one shot. The doe took four bad hits before I killed her. When I made the owner shoot it at a target, the thing shot an 8” 5-shot group at 100 yards. It just so happened that the first shot on the buck was in the middle of that circle. They are built for spraying and praying offhand, not anything precise. Totally defeats the point of having a center fire rifle.

If your experience differs… then your experience differs.

 

[grfox92]

Shot terribly. No ergonomics at all. Useless in any supported position. Can’t use sling for support and take advantage of follow-up shot ability. Just smoking garbage.

It’s a miracle I killed the buck with it in one shot. The doe took four bad hits before I killed her. When I made the owner shoot it at a target, the thing shot an 8” 5-shot group at 100 yards. It just so happened that the first shot on the buck was in the middle of that circle. They are built for spraying and praying offhand, not anything precise. Totally defeats the point of having a center fire rifle.

If your experience differs… then your experience differs.

My experience does differ, but that doesn't change your experience.

I would only ever want to use one for tracking or still hunting timber. I dont currently own one. I am on the lookout for a clean one, but my uncle's 30-06 shoots 1" groups at 100 yards with anything ELD.

They arent know to be super accurate guns, but I dont think the one you used is the norm.

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[Rich M]

I used to use my uncle's 760/7600 30-06 pump from time to time. I did not/would not feel like it was a disadvantage to hunt with one.

Never had an issue with accuracy. It was about a 1.25 gun but if you can't hit paper, it is done shot out. Time to replace.

I know some guys down here use em for multiple shots running deer w dogs.

Not sure if there is a real market for them with the prevalence of AR style guns - that's what you want it you want to put a lot of lead in the air. If not legal and you are stuck with pump or bolt or single shot, it will do the job amiably.

 

[peaceman]

buy the nicest one you can afford. There is a lot of desire for the carbines and they are now approaching $2500+
The "game blaster" was used through the NE forever. They are legitimate 1-1.25" guns with the right ammo.

go to your local gunshow and find one. At our recent show there were no less than 5 760 or 7600s and 2 141's. Anything from pristine to well-beat rifles. .270s are pretty common but even in the small show we have there was a .280.

 

[Jamie930]

I think I saw someone was making one on a modified AR15 upper for the ban states.
I think it used a standard AR15 lower. I know they make the same in lever action.
Uses standard AR15 upper with a modified bolt carrier and lever action lower that takes Rem870 stocks

 

[Joe Holden]

Just sold the one I had (7600 / 30-06 / metal pad on back). With 180 grain bullets, recoil was apparent and action did not seem to enjoy them. Switching to Federal Blue Box 150, it was not uncommon to get 1-1.5"; 3rd groups (not 10rd. Never tried that).

Shooting from a rest wasn't terrible. Broke your form each time you chambered a new round. Barrel would get hot quick but is fine for your mag count. For the few hunts it went out (not much of a rifle hunter), I didn't feel like it held me back in anyway. But also talking timber set ups with everything under 100 yards. Remember thinking it was a nosey gun (mag would rattle, forearm would "clink", etc)
If you were to set up on a field edge with one off a rest, I think it would be fine. Just would have to get use to actually using the platform in that manner.

Mags were interesting. Best I could tell, mine was manufactured in the late 50's. Was able to source one mag from that era and fit with no issue. Second mag (4rd), would work but you'd have to wiggle it in. Third mag (10rd)....that was to carry extra ammo to reload one of the other two mags.

I'd hunt with one for fun again if needed to. Just wasn't being shot while in my possession so it went down the road.

 

[StupidLightweight]

If i were loaded, I'd own an IMI Timberwolf in .357 Mag. These just look like a blast to carry and shoot. I mean, come on...



Next up would be a shorty version of the Remington 14/14R/141 followed by a Savage 170 in .30-30 (also cut short with can added).

The last kind of pump I'd buy would be the Browning BPR (fascinating design but too big) and the Remington 760 or 7600, not because it's a bad design but because I have no need for a long-action cartridge.

If i were to own a 760-class rifle, I'd want the 7615 that uses detachable AR mags. I always thought this was a unique design.

 

[PopNFresh]

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[Poser]

I have a Remington 760 Gamemaster. I replaced the wood with plastic. Its heavy, a little clunky, the pump has a bit of rattle to it. The scope is elevated to compensate for the case ejection so it need a cheek guard. Its not particularly enjoyable to shoot though I have killed some deer with it out to 180 yards.

 

[K9kodi]

It would be for quick evenings hunts in the stand, 75yards and under. Some days I’ll take a lever gun, some days a pump if I had it

 

[K9kodi]

If i were loaded, I'd own an IMI Timberwolf in .357 Mag. These just look like a blast to carry and shoot. I mean, come on...

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Next up would be a shorty version of the Remington 14/14R/141 followed by a Savage 170 in .30-30 (also cut short with can added).

The last kind of pump I'd buy would be the Browning BPR (fascinating design but too big) and the Remington 760 or 7600, not because it's a bad design but because I have no need for a long-action cartridge.

If i were to own a 760-class rifle, I'd want the 7615 that uses detachable AR mags. I always thought this was a unique design.

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I’ve two browning Bps in 12 Ga and they are tough as nails and refined. Expensive boat paddles but when they get ya there you can break ice with them and then shoot the ducks

 

[Macintosh]

I have a remington 7600 carbine in 3006 that I'm NOT selling, as I actually really like it and have a lot of history with it. They are coveted guns around me, people collect them and apparently are willing to pay serious money for them in decent shape--guess they are kind of a status symbol. I paid I think $300 for mine in the very early 2000's, it was used at the time but it's still going plenty strong. Ive shot deer and an elk with mine. They are generally reliable in snowy/icy conditions ime.

That said, they are not nearly as accurate as a bolt rifle, I've never seen one that would consistently shoot much under 1.5" 3-round groups, which is like a 4" cone if you are into larger round-count groups. They are heavy to carry, and the stocks dont help manage recoil at all. The trigger is catastrophically bad. It's highly unlikely I would ever get a shot opportunity past 100 yards, and most shots are less than 50, so the precision of the gun is fine for me. But strictly from a utilitarian point of view I'm not sure why anyone would go out of their way to get one.

 

[Tod osier]

I have a remington 7600 carbine in 3006 that I'm NOT selling, as I actually really like it and have a lot of history with it. They are coveted guns around me, people collect them and apparently are willing to pay serious money for them in decent shape--guess they are kind of a status symbol. I paid I think $300 for mine in the very early 2000's, it was used at the time but it's still going plenty strong.

That said, they are not nearly as accurate as a bolt rifle, I've never seen one that would consistently shoot much under 1.5" 3-round groups, which is like a 4" cone if you are into larger round-count groups. They are heavy to carry, and the stocks dont help manage recoil at all. The trigger is catastrophically bad. It's highly unlikely I would ever get a shot opportunity past 100 yards, and most shots are less than 50, so the precision of the gun is fine for me. But strictly from a utilitarian point of view I'm not sure why anyone would go out of their way to get one.View attachment 1028735

Lotta complaints here about accuracy here. I have a 7600 in 35 whelen that is fantastically accurate. It is a really nice shooter and I can't believe what I can do with it given the insanely creepy trigger. It has been out of rotation for a decade, but I'm thinking of reviving it for a trip now and then for elk in the timber.

 

[Bull_n_heat]

I've got a couple pump guns and use them hunting in the West from time to time. They're not really sneaky - imagine the sound of an stereotypical gun action in a movie every time you chamber a round - but they can get the job done. I worked up a load for a 7600 .270 Win that shoots an honest MOA, even with the crumby trigger @Tod osier referred to (even after I replaced it with a slightly less crumby one). If you can find a convenient rest (pack, tree, bipod) they are more than serviceable, particularly if you aren't planning on needing follow up shots.

One I have wears a scope and my father has shot several critters with it, the other is a 760 .30-06 that has a peep sight that I use primarily for "day 2" elk extraction for quasi self defense in bear country (my brain and bear spray being lines of defense 1 and 2). It has the added benefit of limiting my ability to shoot a second elk and make extraction worse. The peep also greatly cuts weight and would do fantastic in the Rokslide Slam Dunk Contest.

 

[K9kodi]

I think I need one