Puffy Q

[snowplow]

Do you guys ever (normally) wear your puffy while actively hunting or do you have your system figured out so the puffy is just for when your stationary and as a sleep booster?

If you just use it for sitting would you say one can be too warm?

Asking because lm thinking of trading my FL uncomp for a Kifaru LP parka.

Just making sure lm not missing something that l havent thought of.

 

[fngTony]

Depends on the puffy. If it breathes yes, to an extent.
" If sitting can you be too warm?". Easier to be too cold. If sitting at 50* thats about half your body temp and eventually you will feel cool or cold with weather

pretty sure the kifaru is warmer than the fl puffy.

Is your uncompahgre not warm enough when sitting?

 

[toadmeister]

If sitting at 50* thats about half your body temp and eventually you will feel cool or cold with weather

You do understand that made no scientific sense at all, right? Our arbitrary scale of Fahrenheit or Celsius merely a useful scale to indicate gradients between freezing and boiling of water, not absolute energy.

EDIT: OK, that was condescending of me, apologies. Hopefully I provided useful information



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[justinspicher]

My FL Puffy is part of my layering system and I usually only use it when I am stationary. It'd have to be stupid cold for me to wear when moving. I had a Kifaru LP and sold it about a week later. Way warmer and it's also bulkier so I couldn't get it to compress enough for packing. It was also a large so it was extremely big on me. My FL Puffy is a part of my layer system, as the insulation piece, goes under the Vapor rain jacket when its cold enough to require it.

 

[Muley Buck]

I never have my puffy on when on the move. With that said it is a Western Mountaineering Vapor jacket and it is extremely warm, exactly the way I want to be when sitting and glassing. I also have an ucompahgre, I might consider moving around in that, if it was cold enough and didn't have to work to hard getting to where I was going. IMO you can't have a "too warm puffy".

 

[Mtslackcountry]

I mainly use mine when sitting and around camp. I also wear it while still hunting in cold weather under my Kuiu rain shell. or taking a dirt nap during archery. I would never wear it while working hard like climbing as you will sweat your ass off.

 

[fngTony]

You do understand that made no scientific sense at all, right? Our arbitrary scale of Fahrenheit or Celsius merely a useful scale to indicate gradients between freezing and boiling of water, not absolute energy.

EDIT: OK, that was condescending of me, apologies. Hopefully I provided useful information



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No offence taken, it sounded better in my head.

 

[snowplow]

Cool. Last year during elk season it was around 20 and I got a little on the cold side at camp. And one day i hunted most of the day in the Uncompagre, although I wasn't hiking up, just around in a valley.

Maybe I need more to my layering system. I had a Llano qz, Chama and a softshell. Then I put on the Uncomp when at camp. But I ended up being just a touch on the cold side and I would like a little more margin in my system.

I figured I'd add in a heavier mid layer like a Kuiu Peloton 240 or something for this year and a warmer Puffy. I have been told that the Kifaru puffy is a bunch warmer than the Firstlite.

I'm totally up for suggestions if I'm doing anything silly here.

 

[justinspicher]

I've learned to unlayer before I sit and glass or anytime I stop moving. Usually I'm wet from moving so I take everything off but my base layer. Then I put on my puffy. It also helps to dry my wet baselayer out. Just a thought.

 

[Muley Buck]

I've learned to unlayer before I sit and glass or anytime I stop moving. Usually I'm wet from moving so I take everything off but my base layer. Then I put on my puffy. It also helps to dry my wet baselayer out. Just a thought.

I have done this exact same thing. The best part about it is that you can generally get away with fewer layers the warmer your puffy is. I was climbing to the top of a saddle this year at 10,500ft at 30ish degrees and the wind blowing (it's always blowing at the top ain't it) I had a Llano ss and a Llano qz and was a little warm going up. I got to the top and cooled off quick. I took off the QZ and put my puffy over my ss and was happy as a clam. I dried off very quickly inside my puffy without freezing my ass off. Super light and extremely warm, gotta love the puffy man!

 

[Dameon]

I have hunted in my unc puffy a couple times this past October in Utah. It is just another part of my layering system and I had no problems using it while active if the cold and wind called for it. I also tried it with a puffy vest underneath and thought that was too much for active hunting but terrific for around camp and glassing. If you really want too add some warmth without adding a lot of bulk and weight, try a puffy vest. I was really on the fence about puffy vests, so I bought an OR transcendent vest that I could use at home if I didn't like it for hunting. Turns out, I loved it.


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[fngTony]

I'm liking my puffy vest too. Also can hike in it more since heat will dump out the arm holes. No sleeves is also quiet for a puffy if stalking.

Try replacing your softshell with a puffy vest. You didn't mention your lower body or gloves, hat, are you losing heat from those areas?

 

[5MilesBack]

You do understand that made no scientific sense at all, right? Our arbitrary scale of Fahrenheit or Celsius merely a useful scale to indicate gradients between freezing and boiling of water, not absolute energy.

Scientific sense or not.......it made sense to me, because I go off of experience alone and check science at the door. I start to chill when the outside temp drops below 98.6 degrees. That's why I'm always on the move, gets the heat going. But I never wear a puffy while on the move while hunting.

 

[toadmeister]

Scientific sense or not.......it made sense to me, because I go off of experience alone and check science at the door. I start to chill when the outside temp drops below 98.6 degrees. That's why I'm always on the move, gets the heat going. But I never wear a puffy while on the move while hunting.

Great.

Chill below 98.6? You have an odd metabolism!

I'm a big guy at 6'4" 270 lbs. Needs to be below 70 before I will hunt or sweat is going to give me away.

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[Sverimerica]

You do understand that made no scientific sense at all, right? Our arbitrary scale of Fahrenheit or Celsius merely a useful scale to indicate gradients between freezing and boiling of water, not absolute energy.

EDIT: OK, that was condescending of me, apologies. Hopefully I provided useful information



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Thanks Mr science!

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[elkyinzer]

I am virtually never walking with a puffy but it's still an indispensable piece in my arsenal. Great for tossing on when stopped, treestand hunting, or around camp right when you start to get a chill. In colder weather where it may be appropriate to wear a puffy while moving I opt for heavier wool or fleece somewhat due to their superior breathability but more because of durability.

 

[fngTony]

Puffy isn't the best discrpition for what I walk in. It's a teton insulated jacket, like the kenai made for activity. Throw a shell over it when stopped and its puffy warm, at least in early season.

Your metabolism and build type, general health come into play, meaning one person's layers may be inadequate for the next.

My point in my first post was at some point everyone gets chilled. Warm sun, increasing heart rate/ burning calories and insulation combat that. Finding the balance for yourself with your activity is the goal. A very warm puffy doesn't burn calories, works without sun and you control venting it or removing it if too warm. I used 50 degrees in the example because its not cold but have stayed still for hours with no sun and chilled to the point of having to do jumping jacks to warm up because of an inadequate puffy.

Hope that clears it up.

 

[toadmeister]

Puffy isn't the best discrpition for what I walk in. It's a teton insulated jacket, like the kenai made for activity. Throw a shell over it when stopped and its puffy warm, at least in early season.

Your metabolism and build type, general health come into play, meaning one person's layers may be inadequate for the next.

My point in my first post was at some point everyone gets chilled. Warm sun, increasing heart rate/ burning calories and insulation combat that. Finding the balance for yourself with your activity is the goal. A very warm puffy doesn't burn calories, works without sun and you control venting it or removing it if too warm. I used 50 degrees in the example because its not cold but have stayed still for hours with no sun and chilled to the point of having to do jumping jacks to warm up because of an inadequate puffy.

Hope that clears it up.

Puffy vest works well for me also for all the reasons you mention.

This November, had a chilly, windy all-day stand sit. Started to get first signs of hypothermia with uncontrollable chills (couldn't have hit a deer if I tried the way I was trembling). So I did sets of squats in the treestand to warm up! Squats work great for that.

Of course my movement could have scared deer away....

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[5MilesBack]

Chill below 98.6? You have an odd metabolism!

I get told that a lot. I'm 6'6" 215, so no natural insulation. My wife thinks I'm weird when I run to the car or truck in the middle of summer to soak up the heat that's collecting in the hot sun. But my kids are the same as me. I see lizards and snakes soaking up the sun on a rock, and I know exactly what that's like. Blissful.

 

[Dameon]

Not going to lie, I'm so skinny that I can put a Calvin Klein model to shame. I get cold easily, so my top layering system consists of two layers of wool, fleece, puffy vest, soft shell, and puffy jacket. I like multiple layers so I can add or subtract as needed. If I can keep my core warm, my legs can keep themselves warm with one layer of wool and Kanabs. However, I did add the Northbranch bibs and still hunted for whitetail yesterday while it was 50 degrees with two layers of wool and a soft shell on top and and heavy wool bottom base layer and felt great. I really like the Northbranch bibs, I just wish the small size was a little smaller and the fabric was a bit quieter.


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