Podcast With Beretta on Tikka/Sako

[whoop]

@MuleyFever they don't, I was talking with a representative from tikka with Jake from unknown at the salt lake show. He was telling me they use close to minimum spec reamers. If that was the reason you could neck size only and get more speed. Velocity usually has more correlation to bore diameter from what I understand.

i have the same understanding on bore dia. i think it was Ace barrels may have stated a tighter bore will make a speedy barrel.

 

[RyanT26]

https://bobp.cip-bobp.org/uploads/tdcc/tab-i/6-mm-creedmoor-210923-en.pdf

Glad I am not the only one that looked that up after the tikka rep said that.

 

[Chris in TN]

If I was being honest, the right side of my brain was looking for specific, “it works better because we do X and Y differently than everyone else”

I think it largely works better simply because the recessed barrel of the R700 (three rings of steel) has proven over the years to be superfluous. It isn't a 'bad' design. It was an awesome idea in the era in which it was designed, post WWII with cheap mausers to sporterize and cheap surplus powder for garage scientists to use to push the limits of velocity and pressure and blow up a rifle every now and then.

There are still things I prefer about the 700 pattern - the 'flimsy' extractor is very reliable if you don't do dumb stuff with it, and very safe if you do the specific dumb thing of overloading your ammo. I also like the integral feed rails that allow a for a double stack magazine and 'BDL' floorplate, which I prefer to a detachable magazine. I like that it's actually available in a 'short' length. Of course there are weaknesses and it’s a crying shame Remington didn’t get in front of those earlier with a WinM70 style trigger and a better bolt handle. Personally I can live with their bolt release (and I’ve seen them hang) but it would also have been an easy change. Making their rifles to a consistent spec for prefits would have been nice, too, but wasn’t exactly a concern until recent years.


But I'll freely concede that the Tikka design works really well. And I particularly love the scope rail. Simple and reliable. What’s funny is that I have a rifle with a similar rail from the 70’s that has a set of Redfield type bases clamped to it. That’s just how everyone thought back then. The local shops stocked one brand of mount for every rifle.

Overall I enjoyed the whole interview and thought it was great. It’s probably overly critical of me to focus on the 6CM aspect. At this point they know what we want. I think it was awesome of Jared to do the interview. It can be dangerous for a company rep to go on record like that.

My only real tikka complaint: guys, please bring back two action lengths. I realize it’ll never happen but I’m still sore over the move to one length.

 

[dreamingWest]

I probably won't have time to listen for a while, what did Tikka say about 6 CM? Is it still coming later this year?

 

[hardincobucks]

Maybe I missed it but I wish you would have asked them if they could start selling barreled actions to the US.

I asked the Finish rep about that at the Hunt expo and he said that question is brought up a few times every year and it’s something they have talked about but they would have to take production away from full rifles and they are already at capacity for rifles. I think he was saying they would have to build in more production capacity to do so.

 

[RyanT26]

I probably won't have time to listen for a while, what did Tikka say about 6 CM? Is it still coming later this year?

Danced around it.

 

[nm.otter]

they are already at capacity for rifles.

That's a lot of rifles.

 

[Macintosh]

Overall, I appreciated the interview, but the beretta guy left me a bit unimpressed.

 

[Helislacker]

Haven’t been able to watch the full thing yet. Any mention of a possible T4x or replacement for the T3x? My hunch is it will either be a proper tikka action for long action magnum calibres, or a modern switch barrel version of the T3x.

 

[ElkSnort]

Overall, I appreciated the interview, but the beretta guy left me a bit unimpressed.

I spoke with him personally at the Western Hunt Expo in SLC. He was a very informative, knowledgeable, class guy.

 

[Castle Rock]

Gave it a listen, good conversation all round. Really glad the 6mm creed question was asked. Confirmed the waiting on CIP suspicion

Haven’t had a chance to listen, was he lying?
See the post below yours

 

[Frozenlead]

I would say he just deflected the question some and danced around it. He never specifically said that they were waiting on CIP approval for the 6cm, just sort of shifted the conversation down the path of picking cartridges to manufacture and CIP. It’s at the 56 minute mark when Cliff asks him.

 

[Frozenlead]

Haven’t been able to watch the full thing yet. Any mention of a possible T4x or replacement for the T3x? My hunch is it will either be a proper tikka action for long action magnum calibres, or a modern switch barrel version of the T3x.

No mention of it.

 

[Halligan]

@Castle Rock
seems I may have misheard or jumped the gun a bit, I'd assume it was initial reason for the wait. This said, he did seem to indicate that their looking into it. But who knows, it's still relatively new, so they could be waiting to make sure it has enough market, but that's just conjecture on my end.

 

[nm.otter]

This would not have happened unless they were close...

 

[Halligan]

@nm.otter
Welp, looks like I will be changing my tikka plan from 6.5 prc to 6mm creed lol. Have the link?

 

[nm.otter]

It was up for a few days mid-February, then vanished.

 

[Halligan]

Hmmm, wouldn't be surprised if we see it in the spring, this is the time of year when the companies thin inventory for tax purposes from what I'm told.

 

[Schmo]

Didn’t that Beretta rep formerly work for Weatherby?