PMR 30

[mxgsfmdpx]

Nice work. What distance are you hitting those from?

Ranged first two at 23 yards and then the friend scattered a bit after the first died so hard to say. Maybe 27-30 on the second one.

3rd one hunkered down ears back and let me get inside 20 yards.

4th one was 15 yards. I shot under him and he still died anyway.

 

[ElPollo]

After some magazine loading advice from @Formidilosus and another 600 rounds through the gun, we are starting to really get along now.

From this evening…

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Nice shooting. I like the green frame. Kinda funny saying that given this is now, hands down, the ugliest gun I own. They had the black ones at the local Academy for $399, so that’s what I got.

 

[mtnwrunner]

Anyone found a decent belt holster for it that they like?

Randy

 

[mxgsfmdpx]

Anyone found a decent belt holster for it that they like?

Randy

I use the Razco ROMR setup. Let’s me move it from bino harness, to pack belt, to outside waistband at will. Plus he’s a Rokslide sponsor and gives us 10% off.

@Justin (Raz) Rasmussen

 

[mxgsfmdpx]

I use the Razco ROMR setup. Let’s me move it from bino harness, to pack belt, to outside waistband at will. Plus he’s a Rokslide sponsor and gives us 10% off.

@Justin (Raz) Rasmussen

Expanding on this a bit. My bino harness, pack, and daily wear belt each have their own "base" installed that the holster clips into. It uses a key system with a locking clip that has been solid so far. Time will tell on if the locking clip shows wear/malfunction. Some photos from this morning while shooting...

On Bino Harness



Notes on Bino Harness Mounted:

.It adds a single, extra strap to the harness that goes around lower sternum.

.Draw angle is good and feels "natural", drawing "blind" while staying focused on target is not cumbersome, and with practice, is very quick.

.Single hand draw capable (many bino harness mounted holsters require my left hand to "hold" while I draw with right hand).

.Holds tight enough that when tossing bino harness around the truck/jeep and on the ground pistol does not come loose.

.Due to PMR30 being single stack (narrow) and the ROMR holster being quite thin as well, I can still lay prone with bino harness on without the pistol affecting my shooting. It does slightly "dig" into the belly a bit, but does not affect performance. While laying in the dirt, there is a risk of debris getting into the barrel as it does have about a 1/4" gap at the barrel area (not fully enclosed). If you are a bow hunter and crawling into an animal for hours like a nerd, I would move it to my pack waist belt, or outside waist band if no pack.

.Does not affect using my bino harness as a rear rest. I can use my bino harness as a rear rest while all straps are still clipped in, or if I need unclip the left side buckle to get a bit more movement or stand bino harness upright, the pistol holster does not prevent me from doing so. In some instances of kneeling/seated shots where I want to use the bino harness as a rest in some fashion, you may need to unclip the left side buckle of the holster in addition to the left side buckle of the bino harness.


On Backpack

This is a Medium Stone Glacier Belt on a XCurve Frame.



Notes on Backpack Mounted:

.Draw position on stone glacier pack above is further back than desired. Still totally usable but will explore further with cross draw (likely too far of a reach for being quicker).

.Single hand draw capable, does not require off hand to "hold" the holster like some other pack mounted holsters I've used.

.Does not come loose from holster when tossing/moving pack around, or standing pack upright to shoot off of kneeling/seated.

.Does not dig into hips or pinch skin with pack loaded heavy. In certain "big" or "athletic" movements while backpacking it will rub/pinch no matter the pack weight.

On Every Day Carry Belt:



.The places I frequent are what most would consider "the middle of nowhere". Where I own houses/properties and the surrounding "towns", if somebody is not open or conceal carrying they are out of norm.

.I wear mine outside waist band on a standard leather belt. Yes it imprints a bit with a t-shirt on.

.Very quick and easy to draw.

.No issues with single hand drawing.

.Hold pistol in place as it should and is not overly bulky

.Seat belt in vehicles is not annoying and doesn't get caught.

.There are better options in my opinion for every day carry holster but this one does function fine.

 

[ElPollo]

Expanding on this a bit. My bino harness, pack, and daily wear belt each have their own "base" installed that the holster clips into. It uses a key system with a locking clip that has been solid so far. Time will tell on if the locking clip shows wear/malfunction. Some photos from this morning while shooting...

On Bino Harness

View attachment 874042

Notes on Bino Harness Mounted:

.It adds a single, extra strap to the harness that goes around lower sternum.

.Draw angle is good and feels "natural", drawing "blind" while staying focused on target is not cumbersome, and with practice, is very quick.

.Single hand draw capable (many bino harness mounted holsters require my left hand to "hold" while I draw with right hand).

.Holds tight enough that when tossing bino harness around the truck/jeep and on the ground pistol does not come loose.

.Due to PMR30 being single stack (narrow) and the ROMR holster being quite thin as well, I can still lay prone with bino harness on without the pistol affecting my shooting. It does slightly "dig" into the belly a bit, but does not affect performance. While laying in the dirt, there is a risk of debris getting into the barrel as it does have about a 1/4" gap at the barrel area (not fully enclosed). If you are a bow hunter and crawling into an animal for hours like a nerd, I would move it to my pack waist belt, or outside waist band if no pack.

.Does not affect using my bino harness as a rear rest. I can use my bino harness as a rear rest while all straps are still clipped in, or if I need unclip the left side buckle to get a bit more movement or stand bino harness upright, the pistol holster does not prevent me from doing so. In some instances of kneeling/seated shots where I want to use the bino harness as a rest in some fashion, you may need to unclip the left side buckle of the holster in addition to the left side buckle of the bino harness.


On Backpack

This is a Medium Stone Glacier Belt on a XCurve Frame.

View attachment 874024

Notes on Backpack Mounted:

.Draw position on stone glacier pack above is further back than desired. Still totally usable but will explore further with cross draw (likely too far of a reach for being quicker).

.Single hand draw capable, does not require off hand to "hold" the holster like some other pack mounted holsters I've used.

.Does not come loose from holster when tossing/moving pack around, or standing pack upright to shoot off of kneeling/seated.

.Does not dig into hips or pinch skin with pack loaded heavy. In certain "big" or "athletic" movements while backpacking it will rub/pinch no matter the pack weight.

On Every Day Carry Belt:

View attachment 874025

.The places I frequent are what most would consider "the middle of nowhere". Where I own houses/properties and the surrounding "towns", if somebody is not open or conceal carrying they are out of norm.

.I wear mine outside waist band on a standard leather belt. Yes it imprints a bit with a t-shirt on.

.Very quick and easy to draw.

.No issues with single hand drawing.

.Hold pistol in place as it should and is not overly bulky

.Seat belt in vehicles is not annoying and doesn't get caught.

.There are better options in my opinion for every day carry holster but this one does function fine.

I like the RAZCO setup but am not ready to commit to that holster cost until I figure out how well the gun runs and how much I like it. But UPS just dropped off a 29 pound box of ammo to shoot through a 13.7 oz gun. So I guess I’ll find out soon. The weather is supposed to be good this weekend and I plan to run a few hundred rounds through it. As for the holster, I ordered a kydex owb from a relatively local maker. If all goes well this weekend I may be looking at buying the RAZCO.

 

[Bluumoon]

After some magazine loading advice from @Formidilosus and another 600 rounds through the gun, we are starting to really get along now.

From this evening…

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Well, what was the advice? Inquiring minds want to know.

 

[Tahoe1305]

Well, what was the advice? Inquiring minds want to know.

Yeah I struggle with my CMR a bit could benefit from cramming more rounds in there effectively

 

[NM13]

Expanding on this a bit. My bino harness, pack, and daily wear belt each have their own "base" installed that the holster clips into. It uses a key system with a locking clip that has been solid so far. Time will tell on if the locking clip shows wear/malfunction. Some photos from this morning while shooting...

On Bino Harness

View attachment 874042

Notes on Bino Harness Mounted:

.It adds a single, extra strap to the harness that goes around lower sternum.

.Draw angle is good and feels "natural", drawing "blind" while staying focused on target is not cumbersome, and with practice, is very quick.

.Single hand draw capable (many bino harness mounted holsters require my left hand to "hold" while I draw with right hand).

.Holds tight enough that when tossing bino harness around the truck/jeep and on the ground pistol does not come loose.

.Due to PMR30 being single stack (narrow) and the ROMR holster being quite thin as well, I can still lay prone with bino harness on without the pistol affecting my shooting. It does slightly "dig" into the belly a bit, but does not affect performance. While laying in the dirt, there is a risk of debris getting into the barrel as it does have about a 1/4" gap at the barrel area (not fully enclosed). If you are a bow hunter and crawling into an animal for hours like a nerd, I would move it to my pack waist belt, or outside waist band if no pack.

.Does not affect using my bino harness as a rear rest. I can use my bino harness as a rear rest while all straps are still clipped in, or if I need unclip the left side buckle to get a bit more movement or stand bino harness upright, the pistol holster does not prevent me from doing so. In some instances of kneeling/seated shots where I want to use the bino harness as a rest in some fashion, you may need to unclip the left side buckle of the holster in addition to the left side buckle of the bino harness.


On Backpack

This is a Medium Stone Glacier Belt on a XCurve Frame.

View attachment 874024

Notes on Backpack Mounted:

.Draw position on stone glacier pack above is further back than desired. Still totally usable but will explore further with cross draw (likely too far of a reach for being quicker).

.Single hand draw capable, does not require off hand to "hold" the holster like some other pack mounted holsters I've used.

.Does not come loose from holster when tossing/moving pack around, or standing pack upright to shoot off of kneeling/seated.

.Does not dig into hips or pinch skin with pack loaded heavy. In certain "big" or "athletic" movements while backpacking it will rub/pinch no matter the pack weight.

On Every Day Carry Belt:

View attachment 874025

.The places I frequent are what most would consider "the middle of nowhere". Where I own houses/properties and the surrounding "towns", if somebody is not open or conceal carrying they are out of norm.

.I wear mine outside waist band on a standard leather belt. Yes it imprints a bit with a t-shirt on.

.Very quick and easy to draw.

.No issues with single hand drawing.

.Hold pistol in place as it should and is not overly bulky

.Seat belt in vehicles is not annoying and doesn't get caught.

.There are better options in my opinion for every day carry holster but this one does function fine.

What color is that Rokstok?

 

[ElPollo]

Well, what was the advice? Inquiring minds want to know.

Also would like to hear this advice. I have found that loading new mags result in the last 7-8 rounds getting substantial case dents from the rim of the case above it.

 

[mxgsfmdpx]

Also would like to hear this advice. I have found that loading new mags result in the last 7-8 rounds getting substantial case dents from the rim of the case above it.

I was having some issues with failure to extract because I wasn’t being deliberate enough when loading the magazines. I had a hunch this was the issue and Form was quick to confirm.

Advice was…. You have to make sure each round on top, has the rim in front of the one below it- and all the way back.

 

[mxgsfmdpx]

What color is that Rokstok?

It’s a mix of Burnt Bronze H148 and Hunter Orange H128.

 

[NM13]

It’s a mix of Burnt Bronze H148 and Hunter Orange H128.

Thanks.

 

[B23]

I've had my PMR30 for quite a few years now and like anything they have a couple little idiosyncrasies to them but they certainly aren't a deal breaker and though these things are kind of a fugly gun they are not only a lot of fun to shoot but mine is extremely accurate too.

First thing I recommend is take the screws out of the front site then clean the thread on the little screws with brake cleaner and squirt some in the holes to clean those threads as well. Blow the hole out with air make sure everything is clean then just a tiny little dab of blue loctite on the threads and reassemble. Within nearly the first 100 rnds through mine I almost lost the front site.

As to loading the mags I found if I only put 27rnds in each mag they would run flawlessly without a single hiccup but if I put the full 30rnds in it was nearly 100% those first few rounds would not cycle properly.

Nearly all the ammo I've run through my PMR30 has been the 30gr Vmax ammo and that stuff cycles through mine without any problems.

As has been mentioned the grip is wide but there is no way around that because the ammo is long so I'm not sure why people complain about that because you can't really have one without the other. The grip on my FN Five Seven is wide too it's just the nature of the beast. Speaking of the FN Five Seven I paid well over a grand for it compared to about one third of that for my PMR30 and my PMR30 has a wayyyyy better trigger and is more fun to shoot.

The MCARBO products are supposed to help these things cycle just about all ammo as well as make them so you can reliably load the full 30rnds in the mags without any feeding issues. I bought one of their all in one pro bundle kits some time ago but I always forget about it and I've yet to install it.

I always thought one of KelTec's RMR30's done up in a short barreled SBR suppressor setup would make for a fun gun and great for backpacking. KelTec doesn't recommend suppressing their PMR30 but I know some people have put the aftermarket barrel on theirs but I'm pretty sure you have to use an adapter as well.

Like has already been mentioned these things are L O U D AF!!! They have a very nasty and extremely loud sharp crack so unless you want to go deaf always always always wear good ear protection when shooting these things.

 

[ElPollo]

Took mine to the range this am and put 400 rounds through it. 250 of that was cheap Federal 50 gr HP bulk pack (I picked up 2k rounds of it for ~$380) and the rest was CCI 40 gr SP. I had a FTF on the third round, and then it ran flawlessly until about round 340ish when had 3 FTFs in one mag. I pulled the slide off, sprayed it down with brake cleaner, and lubed it. Then it shot the rest without a hiccup. I can’t complain about that. It’s pretty easy to shoot and relatively accurate. I definitely shoot it better than my P365 and my G19. I have some carpal tunnel issues and usually tap out after a couple hundred rounds of 9mm. Had no problem with twice that. The trigger breaks at 3.5#. There’s really nothing negative about it, unless you count that it’s ugly as a mud fence and it’s friggen loud. I had a couple of guys next to me shooting suppressed 22 LR pistols and I think I ruined their day. So far I’m pretty happy with the little fire breathing dragon.

 

[ElPollo]

I've had my PMR30 for quite a few years now and like anything they have a couple little idiosyncrasies to them but they certainly aren't a deal breaker and though these things are kind of a fugly gun they are not only a lot of fun to shoot but mine is extremely accurate too.

First thing I recommend is take the screws out of the front site then clean the thread on the little screws with brake cleaner and squirt some in the holes to clean those threads as well. Blow the hole out with air make sure everything is clean then just a tiny little dab of blue loctite on the threads and reassemble. Within nearly the first 100 rnds through mine I almost lost the front site.

As to loading the mags I found if I only put 27rnds in each mag they would run flawlessly without a single hiccup but if I put the full 30rnds in it was nearly 100% those first few rounds would not cycle properly.

Nearly all the ammo I've run through my PMR30 has been the 30gr Vmax ammo and that stuff cycles through mine without any problems.

As has been mentioned the grip is wide but there is no way around that because the ammo is long so I'm not sure why people complain about that because you can't really have one without the other. The grip on my FN Five Seven is wide too it's just the nature of the beast. Speaking of the FN Five Seven I paid well over a grand for it compared to about one third of that for my PMR30 and my PMR30 has a wayyyyy better trigger and is more fun to shoot.

The MCARBO products are supposed to help these things cycle just about all ammo as well as make them so you can reliably load the full 30rnds in the mags without any feeding issues. I bought one of their all in one pro bundle kits some time ago but I always forget about it and I've yet to install it.

I always thought one of KelTec's RMR30's done up in a short barreled SBR suppressor setup would make for a fun gun and great for backpacking. KelTec doesn't recommend suppressing their PMR30 but I know some people have put the aftermarket barrel on theirs but I'm pretty sure you have to use an adapter as well.

Like has already been mentioned these things are L O U D AF!!! They have a very nasty and extremely loud sharp crack so unless you want to go deaf always always always wear good ear protection when shooting these things.

Thanks for the advice on the front sight. I’ll check mine to see if it’s lose.

 

[HuntHarder]

Holy balls, I shot one of these 2 evenings ago. Might be the loudest handgun i have fired. Is there an extended threaded barrel version. Without a can on it, I have no desire to ever shoot one again. I'll stick with 22lr for my pea shooter.

 

[ElPollo]

Holy balls, I shot one of these 2 evenings ago. Might be the loudest handgun i have fired. Is there an extended threaded barrel version. Without a can on it, I have no desire to ever shoot one again. I'll stick with 22lr for my pea shooter.

I don’t shoot anything without my electronic earplugs.

 

[NM13]

I don’t shoot anything without my electronic earplugs.

Is it possible to quantify "loud AF"? Compared to what? Can't be the loudest.

 

[mxgsfmdpx]

I don’t shoot anything without my electronic earplugs.

Same.