Help Diagnose Issue with Rifle System

For those of you suggesting suppressor @Ramem7mm @HandgunHTR @Laelkhunter , why do you think it would only just now become an issue?

My reasoning is that with QD mounts, if there is some sort of obstruction on the threads or mounting surface, you could have some misalignment. Maybe not enough to cause a baffle strike, but enough to cause some turbulence as the bullet is leaving the suppressor.
You mentioned that you cleaned the rifle, but have you cleaned the mating surface and threads of the suppressor?
 
I dislike the 419 mounts. On my hellfire it seemed like that mating cone needed to have the carbon cleaned frequently or things got locked up. I don’t know if carbon build up could make them go back together a little wonky?
 
I have quite a few thoughts.

Try another scope immediately. This will check off one of the easiest variables. Theres good reason to keep a reliable scope around in rings because it’s the most likely to mess up.

How are you cleaning? I have had a 6.5cm barrel do the exact same thing with zero cleaning for ~1000 rounds.

Mirage? I don’t see a suppressor cover. Mirage can cause some zero shift especially when shooting high magnification groups at closer range.

Suppressor clear and mounts tight?


My plan would be to first actually clean the bore. This is going to be an intensive process if you havnt done it at all. I know this is a debated topic on Rokslide but I tried the no cleaning thing and it worked till it didn’t. If I was okay with 1.5moa guns I’d probably not be cleaning, but I’m not.

After that I’d try a different scope.

After that I’d try a different barrel .
Unfortunately I don’t have an extra scope that’s not in tikka rings.

The cleaning that I did on Sunday was using boretech elimintaor. First patches, then a soaked brush for 20ish passes, then patches until patches came out clean. What do you recommend?

I’m fairly patient, so was not dealing with much mirage since I was allowing the barrel to cool between five-shot strings. I use this scope at 16x for zeroing at 100.

All mounts seemed tight. Scope rings and action screws were checked after first bad group. Suppressor also tight.

I need to thoroughly inspect the suppressor. It’s a 30 cal bore and a 6.5 bullet. A baffle strike seems unlikely, but not impossible.
 
I dislike the 419 mounts. On my hellfire it seemed like that mating cone needed to have the carbon cleaned frequently or things got locked up. I don’t know if carbon build up could make them go back together a little wonky?

I remove the suppressor when I clean the action and chamber. One thing I liked about the hellfire is the rubber gasket on the suppressor-side mount that seems to keep the threads pretty clean.

What’s your preferred HUB mount?
 
Unfortunately I don’t have an extra scope that’s not in tikka rings.

The cleaning that I did on Sunday was using boretech elimintaor. First patches, then a soaked brush for 20ish passes, then patches until patches came out clean. What do you recommend?

I’m fairly patient, so was not dealing with much mirage since I was allowing the barrel to cool between five-shot strings. I use this scope at 16x for zeroing at 100.

All mounts seemed tight. Scope rings and action screws were checked after first bad group. Suppressor also tight.

I need to thoroughly inspect the suppressor. It’s a 30 cal bore and a 6.5 bullet. A baffle strike seems unlikely, but not impossible.

I would run a couple patches of bore tech c4, let it soak for half a day, then hit it with a bronze brush for 10-20 passes, don’t use nylon make sure it’s a nice tight new bronze brush. Patch it dry and use some copper solvent, eliminator will work, for another short soak. Patch dry. I’d also use the c4 on the chamber and freebore area.

At the same time I’d pull the barreled action, check torque on everything and reassemble to known values.

If that dosnt work and you a scope change dosnt fix it, I would just be looking at a new barrel.

Atleast that’s what I’d do. Hopefully a serious cleaning gets it back to acceptable.

I had a 6.5cm do almost exactly what’s happening, when I was experimenting with not cleaning. The problem ended up being remedied by a serious clean with soaking, specifically in the freebore area, and the barrel went on to last another thousand rounds till the end of the season.

Good luck, frustrating for sure. The game is as much about confidence too, barrels are relatively cheap in the grand scheme, I won’t waste much time on one that’s giving me a hard time.
 
Pretty obvious your scope has taken a dump. Until you can prove otherwise to yourself you are going in circles
 
Update, and likely conclusion.

Disassembled, cleaned per @Lawnboi ‘s recommendations (roughly). During this process I discovered a metallic rattle in the front 1/3 of the suppressor, but I could not get anything to come out.

Shot the attached 30-round group unsuppressed. It was hot (93-95) and thus lots of mirage, so I think this group is representative of the rifle’s past performance.

Ammo SD was 11.8fps, consistent with the other measures shots of that lot. Unfortunately I am now out of that lot of ammo, so I will be onto a new lot of the same load. I hope the new lot is as consistent.

Also of note, I dialed the elevation turret dozens of mils between each shot.

As for a new suppressor, thinking an Abel Co theorem with their brake since I have a 25% off cert from a match this spring.
 

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