Parachute hunting?

[InkedElkSlayer]

It’s a lesser known fact that Frank Morris and DB Cooper were cell mates earlier in their respective careers. Frank and the Anglin brothers were living in hiding the Pacific NW in 1971. They were DB’s accomplices that aided him in escaping and evading capture.

 

[BRTreedogs]

@DB Cooper

 

[bairdi]

There was a guy in Alaska (Fairbanks, I think) that did several successful sheep hunts in by parachuting in and the pack rafting out. He was able to access areas that would have been a really long walk from anywhere suitable to land a plane. I believe he either had a military or smoke jumping background. In Alaska if you're hunting in a controlled use area (CUA) that prohibits the use of the use of planes, you could fly in and land outside the CUA and walk across the boundary into the area and hunt, but I'm not sure how a Fish and Wildlife state trooper would interpret that regulation if someone floated across the boundary with a parachute.

 

[z987k]

Non motorized use is not exclusive to hunting.

I'm almost certain getting dropped into the wilderness is perfectly legal if you stay above a certain agl

Right, but since that's what the whole thread is about, the non-hunting application is irrelevant.

As a pilot, I can assure you there is no AGL limit whatsoever over a wilderness area. There is a request, but it's not a regulation.

To tell a guy the parachute hunting is illegal cause he used a plane to get there is funny. Most folks use some kind of 4 wheeled, motor propelled conveyance to get to the trailhead. The diff w parachuting and walking? Both can hurt your knees.

In Alaska at least, the use of an airplane to transport hunters is considered motorized. As is a 4 wheeler etc. It would only not be allowed in non-motorized areas, which there is very little of.

Not all places that jumping into would be a unique was of access are wilderness areas. Plenty of crazy remote BLM, forest, state land etc.

 

[BRTreedogs]

Right, but since that's what the whole thread is about, the non-hunting application is irrelevant.

As a pilot, I can assure you there is no AGL limit whatsoever over a wilderness area. There is a request, but it's not a regulation.

In Alaska at least, the use of an airplane to transport hunters is considered motorized. As is a 4 wheeler etc. It would only not be allowed in non-motorized areas, which there is very little of.

Not all places that jumping into would be a unique was of access are wilderness areas. Plenty of crazy remote BLM, forest, state land etc.

So what your saying is if my intention is to not hunt it may be possible?
But what if I need to turn to hunting for survival and just so happens I have a rifle for self defense/survival.?
Semi feasible?

 

[schmalzy]

Nothing valuable to add other than I would 100% be down if this was ever a viable option solely for the adventure of it all.


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[Titan_Bow]

I went to jump school in the late 90s, just before they adopted the newer T-11. All my jumps in the Army were with a t-10. The idea of jumping a T-10 now at 47, makes my knees hurt! I don’t think people realize how hard you hit the ground with those old air resistance parachutes! Airborne!


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[Coveyleader]

Such a dumb idea I can’t believe I’m even reading or replying. Good luck with this concept! As a guy with 50+ jumps, and vast experience hunting the west…….. as the great Lee Van Cleef once said….…..” I wish you luck”

 

[Kraze]

Not sure if anything ever came of this, but it might be of interest to you anyway:

I've contemplated how I would do it and I'd probably go with a custom base container that I could cram the huge 360 square foot 7 cell canopy the smoke jumpers use into. You'd save weight by ditching the reserve part of your typical sport skydiving rig. No way I'd jump a round for this though.

For those wondering about weights, my skydiving rig with two 210 sq ft canopies weighs right around 25 lbs. Definitely would want to keep wing loading under 1:1 for this idea, so if you got the big 360 sq ft canopy, you'd be looking at a weight limit of 360 pounds. Of course, all of this would be very expensive, but if you have the money to blow, it would be a hell of an experience.

 

[Homer]

Seems odd to me that you can't get brought in by helicopter to hunt, but could for skiing. I'm not disagreeing it is or isn't legal. It's just a total double standard. One group, hunters, get the shaft. Another group, doing the same activity, flying a helicopter into the wilderness, doesn't.

OSounds like Wyoming's rule for hunters. Hikers can go in for miles and days, hunters... its too dangerous...

The entire thing doesn't seem right.

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I believe the vast majority of hunters in Alaska would be against using helicopters to aid in hunting. There are a lot of times I would have liked to have been dropped off right in sheep country or slung a moose out of a crappy spot but that would take a way a lot of what makes Alaska so special. If a person wants an easy hunt that uses helos I’ve heard the NWT will accommodate that.

 

[z987k]

So what your saying is if my intention is to not hunt it may be possible?
But what if I need to turn to hunting for survival and just so happens I have a rifle for self defense/survival.?
Semi feasible?

It entirely depends on the rules of the area.

Generally fish and game frowns heavily upon purposely putting yourself into a scenario where you have to break regulations to survive. You'd probably still see consequences for doing so.

 

[BRTreedogs]

It entirely depends on the rules of the area.

Generally fish and game frowns heavily upon purposely putting yourself into a scenario where you have to break regulations to survive. You'd probably still see consequences for doing so.

I've been trained in interrogation resistance.
They'll have a pretty hard time getting me to admit that my intentions were anything but the best.
Shoot there will be this whole thread they can use against me.
Better go back and delete all my comments so far.

 

[Htm84]

So what your saying is if my intention is to not hunt it may be possible?
But what if I need to turn to hunting for survival and just so happens I have a rifle for self defense/survival.?
Semi feasible?

Its always funny watching someone who thinks they’re super clever.

I totally wasn’t planning on hunting when I parachuted in. Things got hairy and I had to shoot this elk to survive. But lucky for me I happen to have a valid elk tag for the area.
Why didn’t I eat any of it? Well my luck of the Irish struck again and I remembered I brought a pack raft so I just floated on out. I’m lucky to be alive.

 

[BRTreedogs]

Its always funny watching someone who thinks they’re super clever.

I totally wasn’t planning on hunting when I parachuted in. Things got hairy and I had to shoot this elk to survive. But lucky for me I happen to have a valid elk tag for the area.
Why didn’t I eat any of it? Well my luck of the Irish struck again and I remembered I brought a pack raft so I just floated on out. I’m lucky to be alive.

Dude I don't think I'm clever. I'm just making all this shit up to see how worked up I can get you guys. Can't believe how seriously some of you are taking it.
I tried to be blatantly outrageous so you would catch on. But still nah.
No fing way I'm ever exiting an aircraft in the air unless hitting the ground with the aircraft seems like the worse option.

 

[gabenzeke]

A paramotor might be the ticket. Flying duo is a thing so I assume adding an extra 150 lbs for gear/meat wouldn't be a problem. I may have to borrow my brothers rig.

I feel like there was a thread on this a long time ago. Had me legitimately looking into it. Too expensive for me.

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[Grassymike]

Only question I have left... Who says DB Cooper is not on this forum ?

 

[william schmaltz]

As far as the chopper thing, besides not being legal in AK for hunting, land ownership alone would make it unlawful to land in most of the state. I have a close friend that seriously looked into buying a chopper just for fishing and wilderness drop offs for his business. He had a couple sit downs with people at the refuge office and they basically said forget about it without an act of congress. I got a permit to land a chopper within a refuge one time and it was a massive PITA. And that was for a designated single day permit and to perform environmental work through a DoD contract.

 

[KurtR]

Dude I don't think I'm clever. I'm just making all this shit up to see how worked up I can get you guys. Can't believe how seriously some of you are taking it.
I tried to be blatantly outrageous so you would catch on. But still nah.
No fing way I'm ever exiting an aircraft in the air unless hitting the ground with the aircraft seems like the worse option.

I was thinking people would catch on when i started talking halo jumping in but damn they just want to be pissed and argue about something

 

[JMasson]

Hold on…people were actually taking this serious?

 

[kwackkillncrew]

You could get a squirrel suit jump out of the plane in the motor use area and fly into the non motor area pull the chute and your golden. No different then using a car! Also pretty sure you can hunt the same day you fly in ak if it's a commercially scheduled flight.

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