POS Leuplold…

[fwafwow]

The scope is worth $1200 to me in order for you to test it any way you see fit. It isn't that hard. Since you've whined and cried to me about 5 times with this same stupid offer it's time for you to ante up and send me some $$$. I'll then send you my scope. Simple.

Leupold VX-6 Rifle Scope 30mm Tube 2-12x 42mm CDS-ZL FireDot

The VX-6 is the enhanced version of the VX-7 and is now the flagship scope from Leupold. One major improvement is a crystal clear picture throughout the...

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Do I/we get to keep it?

 

[JGRaider]

You send me $1200 I don't care what you do with it.

 

[Halligan]

Me: "Shyiiiiit man, a lot of emotions flying around... how about we all just take a deep breath and relax, huh?"

***feels both sides turn their attention to him, and collectively point pitchforks at him***

Me: "okay... never mind that then"

All joking aside, if it hasn't been brought up, for those questioning the merits of the drop testing, do not forget the value of its administrators. Form/Ryan teach throughout the year and get to see many people (probably a couple hundred) firing hundreds of thousands of rounds per annum. Thus, they get to see what equipment fails more regularly than others. In a sense, its supporting information to the data produced by the drop tests, and allows them to extrapolate better conclusions from the small sample sizes that they test.

All right, please return to your normally scheduled internet browbeating.

 

[Marbles]

You send me $1200 I don't care what you do with it.

Do I get my money back if it turns out you are lying and the scope doesn't hold zero?

 

[fwafwow]

You send me $1200 I don't care what you do with it.

What’s the body count on that scope?

 

[MT_Wyatt]

“Mouth breathing” used to describe the “drop test cult.” . I knew this thread would produce something good eventually.

 

[MT_Wyatt]

What’s the body count on that scope?

Whatever it is, the post count referencing its awesomeness is like 10x it.

 

[JGRaider]

Do I get my money back if it turns out you are lying and the scope doesn't hold zero?

It holds zero for me. No, you spend your money and take your chances, just like you do with every scope purchase.

 

[JGRaider]

What’s the body count on that scope?

Whitetails, muleys, and aoudad = approx 150. Hogs = too many to remember.

 

[JGRaider]

Whatever it is, the post count referencing its awesomeness is like 10x it.

Just to add another reference.......I've killed more game with that scope than you will in 15 lifetimes. How's that?

 

[Marbles]

It holds zero for me. No, you spend your money and take your chances, just like you do with every scope purchase.

I don't trust you nor your description of use nor Leupold enough for that. Good to know your level of confidence, I will match my trust in your recommendations to that.

 

[fwafwow]

Just to add another reference.......I've killed more game with that scope than you will in 15 lifetimes. How's that?

What color nail polish do you use?

 

[khart_6882]

Just to add another reference.......I've killed more game with that scope than you will in 15 lifetimes. How's that?

Ugh….anyone remember when Rokslide didn’t suck soooo hard?


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[fwafwow]

Ugh….anyone remember when Rokslide didn’t suck soooo hard?


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Sorry for my part. Was doing some due diligence before deciding to create a GoFundMe or to have us pass the hat again.

 

[Bowfinn]

“It” being the scope, or your time, effort and trouble (perhaps a bit redundant?). I ask because I’m trying to to figure out what you need for us to get the scope tested. $1200 just seems a bit arbitrary, and probably intended to prevent your scope from being tested. Which one, btw?

While it may seem like a fair offer, I think JG likes his leupold so much he would rather you have his leupold and he get his money back

 

[JustSomeGuy35]

I took a 2 year break from Rokslide after getting a two week ban for trolling on wolf threads. I didn't realize I was an internet troll until I googled what that entailed. Figured I'd give myself some time to mature, lol.

It's refreshing to see that nothing has changed in my absence. People still making excuses for SWFA's crappy business model. People making emotion-driven arguments for the eradication of every predator. Leupold/Vortex guys still being obstinate. Drop test guys still trying to win the masses over by repeating the same lines over and over. A few guys pretending to ride the fence while (not so) secretly being for or against the tests.

It's beautiful, man. I keep getting older but the debates stay the same.

Here's what I learned in my time away:

Pretty much every other gun/hunting related forum calls the RS drop tests "fudd testing". The average hunter/shooter has aspirations for shooting animals at 500 yds but actually only zeros their rifles at 100yds, rarely shoots past that, and cherry picks 3 round groups to make accuracy claims.

Based on that, they would never notice a shift in zero unless it was a crazy amount. If their zero did shift a crazy amount, it's probably due to their use of crappy Amazon rings or a rail that they never bothered to check for proper installation.

Long story short, the average hunter/paper puncher wouldn't know their scope had shifted zero because they lack experience and knowledge. Most of these guys are the target demographic for Vortex and Leupold. They maybe shoot a box of ammo a year thru their rifle and call it good. They probably kill a deer or so every couple of years, at 150 yds or less, and that reinforces the belief that their scope is fine and drop tests are stupid.

Obviously there are some guys on here that kill lots of shit with their Leupolds and Vortex scopes. From what I've seen though, they are the minority. I don't doubt their claims at all but that doesn't change what I've seen across a dozen forums and in real life talking to dudes at ranges.

Over the last 4 years, I've gotten rid of almost all my Vortex scopes and replaced them with SWFA and Trijicon for my "hard use" rifles. Why? It's not because I'm 100% sold on the drop tests as being the defacto end all be all. I did it because my time and money is precious and I'm reasonably certain that the drop tests weed out the fragile shit. I see enough value in the tests to reasonably conclude that my best option is to START with the scopes that have been abused and passed the test. If they don't perform how I expect them to, then I'll move on.

So far they're doing just fine so I'm not moving on.

 

[JGRaider]

Sorry for my part. Was doing some due diligence before deciding to create a GoFundMe or to have us pass the hat again.

Put your money where your mouth is or quit asking.

 

[JGRaider]

I don't trust you nor your description of use nor Leupold enough for that. Good to know your level of confidence, I will match my trust in your recommendations to that.

The feeling's mutual. My scope would pass your "test" and you'd lie about it and say it didn't. See how that works?

 

[Macintosh]

The feeling's mutual. My scope would pass your "test" and you'd lie about it and say it didn't. See how that works?

That’s not the parallel of what he said, not trusting anything without verification is different than calling someone a liar. Sorry if you took it that way, I didnt, it’s a lame thing to say.

 

[JGRaider]

I don't trust you nor your description of use nor Leupold enough for that. Good to know your level of confidence, I will match my trust in your recommendations to that.

That’s not the parallel of what he said, not trusting anything without verification is different than calling someone a liar. Sorry if you took it that way, I didnt, it’s a lame thing to say.

Really?