Oregon hunting guide killed by accidental discharge

[7mm-08]

Sad, but likely preventable, incident. Condolences to the friends and family of the deceased - and to the individual who was holding the weapon. Lots of lives changed dramatically in a split second.

 

[Marble]

Very sad and totally preventable. These things just don't happen.

My brother almost shot me and/or a horse four years ago. What made me more upset was two things: He made excuses and didn't accept responsibility, nor did he apologize. Second, I found out later he had been smoking pot throughout the day. This was 4-5 miles from the trailhead in an area he had never been to. He also got lost for an hour during the day ( probably high).

I will never hunt with him again.

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[DangerRanger]

That is incorrect.

When do you have to chamber a round with your rifle pointed at someone?

So far I’ve not come across this necessity yet and can’t imagine when I willlx

 

[Fartrell Cluggins]

That is incorrect.

That is ridiculous. The muzzle of a gun never gets pointed toward a person. That is very basic firearms safety that would have prevented this fatality.

 

[wyosam]

That is incorrect.

Cool, you shouldn’t be anywhere near a firearm.


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[LongWayAround]

Very tragic and it can happen anytime to anyone.

Only if people are pointing guns at each other.

 

[GSPHUNTER]

Even with a firearm that you absolutely know to be empty, never ever have the gun pointed at another person, NEVER. Follow the simple safety rule and, so called accidents will never happen.

 

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the guide did not point a gun at anyone and he got shot just as the same thing can happen to anyone else.

 

[TaperPin]

Using the Swiss cheese model of looking at accidents, the guide should have had strict rules about firearms while they are driving around, the guy shouldn’t have chambered his rifle in the way he did, and chances are the other hunter is a buddy and he probably knew the shooter wasn’t safety minded.

Now it seems at least a couple of generations in our country have grown up with less than stellar safety habits. People are too nice and don’t call out BS when they see it, and often it’s the blind leading the blind, or someone isn’t from a hunting family and is making it up as they go along.

This type of accident is avoidable, and leads to ridiculous lawsuits - would it surprise anyone if the guides family sues the gun maker because it doesn’t have enough warning engraved on the barrel, or printed on the ammo, or it’s the trigger’s fault.

 

[GSPHUNTER]

The term "accident" should never be used when someone is shot. Rather "poor gun safety shooting event occurred"

 

[NMJM]

Very tragic and it can happen anytime to anyone.

Really??? Absolutely not. This type of incident only happens when people carelessly handle firearms. Follow basic safety rules and this will never happen.

 

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Cool, you shouldn’t be anywhere near a firearm.

Cool, that would keep me from getting shot except for the folks who use the scope as a binocular....

 

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Really??? Absolutely not. This type of incident only happens when people carelessly handle firearms. Follow basic safety rules and this will never happen.

I bet the guide followed basic safety rules.

 

[Choupique]

friend” who muzzle sweeps people every time he handles a gun and then acts like everyone is being ridiculous when they tell him not to

Sounds like you should hit him and never associate with him again.

People like that should have their ass beat until they get un stupid.

 

[Choupique]

Most likely a negligent discharge not accidental.

Yea. Either way, for someone to get shot a gun has to be pointed at them.

Lots of hunters out there these days who weren't raised by hunters. Many just don't know any better. Never attribute to malice what is easily explained by stupidity. Take the time to educate those who need educating.

 

[Jason Snyder]

Firearms are mechanical devices that can potentially fail when they shouldn’t.

The firearms handler, absent a fall or some similar event, can CHOOSE to maintain proper muzzle control.

Hard to say if this was a finger on the trigger issue or not, but proper muzzle discipline was clearly not followed.

 

[Jason Snyder]

I bet the guide followed basic safety rules.

Which is about as relevant as the passenger being sober in a DUI fatality crash.

 

[DangerRanger]

Lots of hunters out there these days who weren't raised by hunters. Many just don't know any better. Never attribute to malice what is easily explained by stupidity. Take the time to educate those who need educating.

Not convinced this group is any worse than the old hats.

Been around a lot of older generation hunters with WAY worse firearms safety habits. Muzzle control being a standout.

 

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Which is about as relevant as the passenger being sober in a DUI fatality crash.

Exactly. Which is why I said it can happen to anyone at anytime. But the slide experts say I am wrong to say that....I am not to be near guns because I realize that someone else can shoot me when I am.

 

[Ucsdryder]

Exactly. Which is why I said it can happen to anyone at anytime. But the slide experts say I am wrong to say that....I am not to be near guns because I realize that someone else can shoot me when I am.

I think this is a who’s on first and what’s on second…

Someone said this could be solved with proper firearms safety, which is a fact. Indisputable.

But you said he was incorrect, because apparently you’re referring to yourself as the victim having firearm safety but another party NOT using proper firearms safety. The crux is that the poster is still right…IF ALL PARTIES INVOLVED USED PROPER FIREARM SAFETY THE GUIDE WOULD BE ALIVE.