Oregon ballot initiative

[mt terry d]

Do not comply.

Problem solved.

Next!

 

[DenimChicken]

Similar to Washington state. One tiny area, packed with people who love to smell their own farts, completely ruin the entire state.

Unfortunately true.

 

[TJ]

Here's the thing, some people (in my experience) like to play this game where they've deemed themselves the arbiter of truth. Rather than play that game, I don't engage. I'm not going to waste my time arguing with someone about the reliability of various sources. You can choose the route of willful ignorance if you like. No skin off my back. But a Google search will give you a number of sources. Since you're on rokslide, perhaps rmef is a source you will trust. They have a recent article on it. But yeah, I'm sure all these stories are bs as you put it.

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Here’s the thing. You posted for discussion, or outrage, so I thought maybe a source would a good starting point for discussion.
I live in Oregon so it doesn’t really surprise me. I don’t think it has chance, but who knows.

And know, I don’t care to be arbitrator of truth.

 

[Wrathchild]

More fear mongering and fake news. Come on people.

Section 9. ORS 167.335 is amended to read:
(1) Except as provided in subsection (2) of this section, unless gross negligence can be shown, the provisions of ORS 167.315 (Animal abuse in the second degree) to 167.333 (Sexual assault of an animal) do not apply to:
(a) [The treatment of livestock being transported by owner or common carrier;]Situations of self-defense when it is necessary to defend against the threat of immediate harm to oneself, to other humans, or to other animals;
[(b) Animals involved in rodeos or similar exhibitions;]
[(c) Commercially grown poultry;]
[(d) Animals subject to good animal husbandry practices;]
[(e) The killing of livestock according to the provisions of ORS 603.065 (Slaughter methods);]
[(f)](b) Animals subject to good veterinary practices as described in ORS 686.030 (Acts constituting practice of veterinary medicine)[;].
[(g) Lawful fishing, hunting and trapping activities;] [(h) Wildlife management practices under color of law;]
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[(i) Lawful scientific or agricultural research or teaching that involves the use of animals;] [(j) Reasonable activities undertaken in connection with the control of vermin or pests; and] [(k) Reasonable handling and training techniques.]
(2) Subsection (1) of this section does not create an exemption from ORS 167.332 (Prohibition against possession of same genus or domestic animal). [1985 c.662 §6; 1995 c.663 §4; 2001 c.926 §10a; 2018

 

[TJ]

The sky is blue if you are willing to expend the energy to look out of your window.

Sorry there’s to much smoke to tell, I’ll check again in the morning though.

 

[TJ]

It's posted on the Oregon Secretary of State site. Needs 120,413 signatures to make it to the 2024 ballot.

https://sos.oregon.gov/admin/Documents/irr/2024/003text.pdf

What's concerning about this isn't that I believe there's a chance it will pass, it's the messaging and half truths that the signature gatherer's will spread and potentially turn a few of the indifferent masses into anti-hunters.

Oregon IP13 Ballot Initiative Hunting Ban among other things

https://www.yesonip13.org/ I ran across a news article on this ballot initiative in Oregon. Holy Hell! There are some special people in that state (and unfortunately others). Ban hunting, almost all animal husbandry practices in common use, and even frowning at a cat that just scratched...

rokslide.com

try try try again if at first you dont succeed.

Thank you

 

[Sam Colt]

The only reason crap like this gets traction is because no one in the cities has any idea at all what goes on in the country. They pay abolutely no attention to...

 

[MattB]

Here's the thing, some people (in my experience) like to play this game where they've deemed themselves the arbiter of truth. Rather than play that game, I don't engage. I'm not going to waste my time arguing with someone about the reliability of various sources. You can choose the route of willful ignorance if you like. No skin off my back. But a Google search will give you a number of sources. Since you're on rokslide, perhaps rmef is a source you will trust. They have a recent article on it. But yeah, I'm sure all these stories are bs as you put it.

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You could have found and posted a link in much less time than it took you to write that post.

But I understand adulting is hard.

 

[TJ]

You could have found and posted a link in much less time than it took you to write that post.

But I understand adulting is hard.

It wasn’t my post. I have no idea the source or what it said. Do you?

And yes it’s too bad the I-5 corridor controls most everything in this State.
I do think it’s too radical even for most Oregonian’s

 

[Cameron.25]

Yeah i have a hard time believing this will get enough votes cause its just so extreme, but sadly i bet it gets enough signatures to bring it to a vote. They have been trying to do this for over a year, maybe 2 if i remember correctly

 

[mt terry d]

Yeah i have a hard time believing this will get enough votes

Hey, Biden got 81 million. It could happen.

 

[gabenzeke]

You could have found and posted a link in much less time than it took you to write that post.

But I understand adulting is hard.

Both of you could have googled it in the amount of time you posted. So I guess we're even.

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[gabenzeke]

More fear mongering and fake news. Come on people.

Section 9. ORS 167.335 is amended to read:
(1) Except as provided in subsection (2) of this section, unless gross negligence can be shown, the provisions of ORS 167.315 (Animal abuse in the second degree) to 167.333 (Sexual assault of an animal) do not apply to:
(a) [The treatment of livestock being transported by owner or common carrier;]Situations of self-defense when it is necessary to defend against the threat of immediate harm to oneself, to other humans, or to other animals;
[(b) Animals involved in rodeos or similar exhibitions;]
[(c) Commercially grown poultry;]
[(d) Animals subject to good animal husbandry practices;]
[(e) The killing of livestock according to the provisions of ORS 603.065 (Slaughter methods);]
[(f)](b) Animals subject to good veterinary practices as described in ORS 686.030 (Acts constituting practice of veterinary medicine)[;].
[(g) Lawful fishing, hunting and trapping activities;] [(h) Wildlife management practices under color of law;]
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[(i) Lawful scientific or agricultural research or teaching that involves the use of animals;] [(j) Reasonable activities undertaken in connection with the control of vermin or pests; and] [(k) Reasonable handling and training techniques.]
(2) Subsection (1) of this section does not create an exemption from ORS 167.332 (Prohibition against possession of same genus or domestic animal). [1985 c.662 §6; 1995 c.663 §4; 2001 c.926 §10a; 2018

This is interesting. I've found four separate sources including the RMEF that all state the initiative would ban hunting, fishing, trapping, and ranching. But you're right, it definitely looks like it has exemptions for all those activities. I think I'm actually going to reach out to RMEF and see what they have to say about that.

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[Wrathchild]

@gabenzeke unfortunately truth doesn’t get people riled up and drive clicks. Curious what RMEF has to say as well.

 

[SonnyDay]

It does appear to outlaw sodomizing your elk after you kill it… so some of you may have to alter your “gutless method”.

I guess it also makes it illegal to sodomize the elk before you kill it. If any of you are in shape enough to sodomoze a living elk, post a link to your workout routine!

 

[roadrunner]

If everyone quit showing up to work for one month, all this nonsense would go away...

 

[Beendare]

Wokeajoke

And they keep voting these idiots in- unbelievable.

Another example:
Chicago votes out Lightfoot…and puts in a guy that is worse.

 

[*zap*]

^there is no hope.

 

[TJ]

Yeah i have a hard time believing this will get enough votes cause its just so extreme, but sadly i bet it gets enough signatures to bring it to a vote. They have been trying to do this for over a year, maybe 2 if i remember correctly

In reality this has been coming since the no trapping ban and the bear and cougar initiatives.
I wish the voters were left out of wildlife decisions, they simply aren’t qualified.

 

[mt terry d]

In reality this has been coming since the no trapping ban and the bear and cougar initiatives.
I wish the voters were left out of wildlife decisions, they simply aren’t qualified.

Quite true. And consider the fact that the $$$$ we spend on wildlife studies and game management is wasted on "studies" whose conclusions are pre-determined by those in high positions regardless of the facts (the wolf scam is a prime example) . They aren't qualified either. Any way you look at it the future of hunting in America is grim.