Ogden, Utah?

[HighUintas]

Got a simple question for those in the know. If you had a desire to live near the mountains and Ogden, Utah was where you could get a job to allow you to live within a few hours of several western states you wanted to hunt each fall, would you make the move? If not why? Thanks, look forward to guys feedback.

I've been in Sandy, Utah for 4.5 years. I moved here from southern Illinois. So, I'm used to living in a rural farming area. I think your satisfaction here largely depends on the type of person you are and how easily you can ignore the annoyances of the state (if that's what they are to you).

Things I hate:
- The air quality of the Ogden/SLC/Provo valley - it can get really bad in winter AND summer.
- The commute traffic can get very bad between SLC and Ogden or SLC and Provo, but isn't that bad compared to some other metropolitan places
- The liquor laws and alcohol taxes. If you like beer other than the big ones like AB, Coors, etc, then it will certainly piss you off. The liquor stores are state owned and they tax liquor 80 something percent. That money isn't even earmarked for something good like education. It goes into the state theocracy general fund.
- The trails along the Wasatch front and easily accessible areas of the Uintas are insanely crowded. If you want some mountain solitude, live in Central or southern Utah.
- rapidly increasing population. It seems like every month there is a new housing development encroaching into the countryside. People here seem to care more about getting $$$$ for their property rather than keeping it and enjoying their property.
- no OTC deer tags
- it's a long drive to get away from people if you live in the metro valley area
- it seems most of the rural type folk don't give a crap about their public land and have no qualms about littering and leaving behind their shooting garbage
- the feeling like I have a decent chance of being hit by a stray bullet or bird shot on Wasatch front trails above Bountiful and Ogden
- rifle season is nuts and there's too many dumbass rifle hunters in the woods at one time
- no good barbecue or Cajun food
- no MLB team

Things I like
- there is a multitude of different ethnic restaurants that are really good
- remote parts of the Uintas are pretty incredible and the hills definitely hold some elk
- no quota $50 OTC bull elk tags that turn into either sex in extended season and the extended season is pretty long - I haven't hunted in other western states, but I agree with others that the resident hunting opportunity quality probably isn't as high as other states
- great snow, if you're into skiing
- there's some good places for bass fishing and some places to trap crawfish
- huge number of stores for outdoor (hunting and other) supplies. I rarely buy this stuff online. But, good luck finding powder/bullets in the stores right now. I've got a couple honey holes
- low crime - I live in Sandy and my only crime rate comparison for Ogden and west valley is St Louis
- the general outdoor community brings a variety of people, so you're not absolutely stuck drinking beer with socialists or Trump fans, or just drinking soda with Mormons


All that being said, I'm counting down the days for when my 12 year old step son graduates HS so we can move to Idaho or Wyoming and that day CANNOT come fast enough

 

[North Idaho Stickbow]

No good bbq?! You have Pat’s in south salt lake. I’ve eaten some good bbq all over the country, and Pat’s can compete with the best of them!

 

[HighUintas]

No good bbq?! You have Pat’s in south salt lake. I’ve eaten some good bbq all over the country, and Pat’s can compete with the best of them!

I've had quite a few around here but haven't found a good one yet. I may also just be a little spoiled from Mike Mills' 17th Street BBQ. I haven't been to Pat's, though. Thanks for the tip, I'll have to try it out!

 

[Scrappy]

Again thank you guys for all the info. One thing that is starting to stand out to me from reading here as well as other googling info. I believe I should be asking has any other country folks moved to the Ogden metro area. I believe that the view from folks moving there from other cities find not bad where as country folk find it a little bit overwhelming due to the larger population. I maybe way off but it's the way im feeling about it at this point.

 

[North Idaho Stickbow]

I've had quite a few around here but haven't found a good one yet. I may also just be a little spoiled from Mike Mills' 17th Street BBQ. I haven't been to Pat's, though. Thanks for the tip, I'll have to try it out!

Go dude! Make your tummy happy.

 

[Sled]

No good bbq?! You have Pat’s in south salt lake. I’ve eaten some good bbq all over the country, and Pat’s can compete with the best of them!

The ribs and pulled pork are good there. The rest is just ok. Don't even get me started on their jambalaya. If you don't know how to do it well, just sell it to utahns cause they don't know the difference.

 

[Sled]

I believe that the view from folks moving there from other cities find not bad where as country folk find it a little bit overwhelming due to the larger population. I maybe way off but it's the way im feeling about it at this point.

Think of the Wasatch front as the bottom end of the digestive tract. Everything is squeezed together between the mountains with nowhere to go, yet more people move here everyday.

As I mentioned earlier, look into morgan, Peterson or Eden. The commute isn't that bad to hill af base.

Tooele is a bit more rural than Ogden but growing fast. You can babysit my 105 rounds if you end up there. Just don't forget to repack the supplemental charge if you inspect them.

 

[Nutsknr]

I’m not a “member in good standing”, a “Jack mormon ”,but here is all we ask.

If you are moving here to enjoy what we offer, GREAT.

If you are moving here to change us, or change the “theocracy”, perhaps keep on driving.

There is a heavy LDS prescence here. It’s why the cities are clean, the streets are straight, the work ethic is high, and our kids get educated.

And those qualities are also what sucks in the businesses and corporations.

It’s also why our cities aren’t on fire, our stores ain’t looted, and our cops arent defunded.

It’s also why Utah is leading the nation economically during the Wuhan rescission.

There are tons of places with plentiful beer selection and good bbq. A few less folks on the highway and mtns we wouldn’t miss.

Unfortunately, there is a price to pay on both sides.

I lived here when if your dad didn’t work at Hill Field, your family struggled. But the pheasant hunting was top notch, and we did it on bicycles.

And I live here now. And there isn’t pheasant hunting, but there are jobs.

I’m fine with the tax on my Knob Creek, and drinking Ultras. And I’m fine with eating steaks instead of ribs.

I’m betting you will be too

 

[zion zig zag]

There is a heavy LDS prescence here. It’s why the cities are clean, the streets are straight, the work ethic is high, and our kids get educated.

And here, ladies and gentlemen, is one of the aforementioned LDS that you don't want to deal with.

Give me a f kin break.

 

[YZF_88]

Got a simple question for those in the know. If you had a desire to live near the mountains and Ogden, Utah was where you could get a job to allow you to live within a few hours of several western states you wanted to hunt each fall, would you make the move? If not why? Thanks, look forward to guys feedback.

I moved to the Ogden area from WI. This is where I found a good paying job. Yeah the OTC hunting in Utah isn't great but you can put the time into figuring them out or be in 3 other states within hours for hunting. I wanted to live out west but had to find a good job first, make sure schools were good for kids second, hunt third.

 

[HighUintas]

I moved to the Ogden area from WI. This is where I found a good paying job. Yeah the OTC hunting in Utah isn't great but you can put the time into figuring them out or be in 3 other states within hours for hunting. I wanted to live out west but had to find a good job first, make sure schools were good for kids second, hunt third.

That's true. The schools are good and there's plenty of jobs.

 

[Nutsknr]

And here, ladies and gentlemen, is one of the aforementioned LDS that you don't want to deal with.

Give me a fuckin break.

You realize “the LDS” actually grid mapped the streets right? That’s why they are straight.

And, feel free to contact any national recruiter,
“Utah has a high work ethic and highly educated younger population”

I realize that angers some folks who are uptight and paranoid.

This “LDS” hasn’t walked in a Mormon church for 29 years. Hate to ruin your narrative. But it’s not hard to appreciate a populace who believe in hard work, and family.

 

[HighUintas]

You realize “the LDS” actually grid mapped the streets right? That’s why they are straight.

And, feel free to contact any national recruiter,
“Utah has a high work ethic and highly educated younger population”

I realize that angers some folks who are uptight and paranoid.

This “LDS” hasn’t walked in a Mormon church for 29 years. Hate to ruin your narrative. But it’s not hard to appreciate a populace who believe in hard work, and family.

Companies move to Utah because real estate is relatively cheap and the state's regulations are friendly to manufacturing.

 

[Sled]

I’m not a “member in good standing”, a “Jack mormon ”,but here is all we ask.

If you are moving here to change us, or change the “theocracy”, perhaps keep on driving.

....says the guy from the religion that travels far and wide to convert cultures to their ideology.

does anyone else see the irony here.

 

[Nutsknr]

....says the guy from the religion that travels far and wide to convert cultures to their ideology.

does anyone else see the irony here.

Says the guy from a conservative state that would prefer to keep it that way.


As does ID, WY

So be prepared for the same sentiment from them

 

[zion zig zag]

You realize “the LDS” actually grid mapped the streets right? That’s why they are straight.

And, feel free to contact any national recruiter,
“Utah has a high work ethic and highly educated younger population”

I realize that angers some folks who are uptight and paranoid.

This “LDS” hasn’t walked in a Mormon church for 29 years. Hate to ruin your narrative. But it’s not hard to appreciate a populace who believe in hard work, and family.

You should get out more.

But yeah, SLC is the only place in the world with a grid system, hard workers and people who believe in family.

 

[Nutsknr]

You should get out more.

But yeah, SLC is the only place in the world with a grid system, hard workers and people who believe in family.

Ummm, Op asked about OGDEN, UTAH.

As in OGDEN, a city in UTAH.

Meaning they were seeking opinions on OGDEN, UTAH.

Had he asked about wherever it is you are at NOT IN UTAH, I wouldn’t have answered due to the fact that I DONT LIVE THERE.

Right after Trump, the 2nd most triggering word around is MORMON.

So, as is based on the massive influx of people INTO UTAH, it’s a pretty good place to be. And since N Utah is one of the fastest growing areas in the country, it’s safe to say that.


Are there better areas for hinting? Absolutely.

But since the OP pointed out he needs the JOB first, a lot of those areas don’t have that in abundance.

 

[Sled]

But since the OP pointed out he needs the JOB first, a lot of those areas don’t have that in abundance.

the military has jobs in a lot of places.


as for preferring to keep it conservative, i'd also like to keep it somewhat conservative but what conservative used to be. not what it's been perverted to now. not sure either of us have a choice in the matter though. and good luck telling people who can move here an who can't. if that were the case california would still have all their residents.

 

[Scrappy]

I'll answer two of the questions that seem to keep popping up on this thread. Number one is I don't care what religion you practice. I treat everyone I meet as an individual. Number two is your politics, I wished everyone who moves to a new state would be required to vote the way the majority of the state they are moving to for the first ten years of residency. If you don't like a state being conservative or liberal don't move to that state.


Now back to the original intent of this thread. I have a phone interview on the 14th at Tooely ammunition depot. I've never done a phone interview and haven't done a job interview in probably twenty years. Any pointers on a phone interview?

 

[Sled]

I'll answer two of the questions that seem to keep popping up on this thread. Number one is I don't care what religion you practice. I treat everyone I meet as an individual. Number two is your politics, I wished everyone who moves to a new state would be required to vote the way the majority of the state they are moving to for the first ten years of residency. If you don't like a state being conservative or liberal don't move to that state.


Now back to the original intent of this thread. I have a phone interview on the 14th at Tooely ammunition depot. I've never done a phone interview and haven't done a job interview in probably twenty years. Any pointers on a phone interview?

I've never had to do a phone interview for a job myself but I do conduct them every now and then. When I'm interviewing a perspective employee over the phone I really want to know that they've done their homework. In my line of work we're looking for competent operators that are committed to the position. I also look for people that can think on the fly. Expect them to ask you some questions that require something other than a canned answer. I expect someone to briefly think about it and then give a satisfactory answer. It is difficult to interview someone over the phone and get a real idea of who they are. Each person hiring may be looking for something different. Try to find out from other people that have your job what their employers want to see. By no means are we looking for someone with all the right answers because that throws up red flags. Just conduct yourself like a quality applicant that seems like they've put thought into this position.