Off season for the dogs

[AK_Skeeter]

Another concept I teach in soft snow on linear corridors like snowmobile trails
is to keep on going on that initial line and build lining momentum and confidence.
Confidence because pup does not see me plant the bumpers and learns to keep on going
to discover the next bumper.
For example, start with 3 bumpers at 50, 75,100 yards, lining to each
and backing up as pup is headed to each bumper.
Soon pup is lining to 3 bumpers at 100, 200, 300 yards as training progresses.
The reverse the lining direction and repeat on a new snowmobile trail.

As soon as the snow melts, I teach pup to line diagonal across linear corridors.

 

[GreenNDark Timber]

Built a new reversible backing silhouette this weekend while the weather was bad and also bought a new blank pistol. I'm going to pick up 6 new homers for the loft later this week, then I'll be ready for training season.

 

[KurtR]

Doing some ob in the garage the last few days and next but i can tell he is ready to get out and get some field work in. going to be a big summer for us getting to ready to run the grand down in Nashville this fall

 

[jmez]

I'm patiently waiting for it to get above 0 so I can get the dogs out.

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[CMP70306]

I've got three of them and love'em. Most of us that have them call them Red Setter's but they are registered as Irish Setter's. The ones called Irish ?field setter's are Reds that have been cross registered to AKC. None of them would interest me. To afraid AKC people will get them and start crossing them into what they already have. Might work and might not. My Snicker is up above. This is his half sister Abby.

like dogs, period. But I recommend looking at gun dogs or shooting dogs. field trials differ from hunting enough to make all age dogs a bad choice for me. I've judged AKC AF twice and Shoot to Retrieve. I never judge all age dogs. In AKC all age dogs either got lost or placed, to much run. Never judged All Age in AF but watching Shooting Dogs suspect its even worse. AF E. Setter's I had, had so much run it was not possible to foot hunt them but beautiful dogs in the training field. AF dogs in Shoot to Retrieve normally got lost. They are bred to run it seems to me over anything else. Seems AKC Gun Dogs that win most run fairly big, about like AF foot shooting dogs, but under much better control. Remember an AKC shorthair always ran All Age. The handler either lost the dog or beat you. If you think you might like E Setter's go watch the Shoot to Retrieve dog's to select one. simply rule out the huge runners. I've had several E Pointer's and though they look good in training I would never own another, simply to much run. Bred to compete in field trials. Something in all trials you might notice is dog's that relocate on their own keeping good location on the bird get turned down by judges. If I remember right it's in the rules that way. Those that might move from cover to mark a fall also get the boot normally. For simply a hunting dog with style I'd strongly recommend a German Shorthair, Red Setter, Britanny, German Wirehair and Visula. My top picks would be Shorthair, Red Setter, German Wire Hair and Britanny.

Thank you for the information, I’m new to bird hunting and dog training so I went with a field bred golden because if it didn’t work out I still had a lovable family dog that was easy to train and good with young kids.

However in a few years from now when I get a second dog I’ll know how into bird hunting I am and if it would make sense to get a pointer/versatile dog or go with another golden. Currently I’m only hunting stocked birds in PA with plans to do a preserve hunt or released birds a few times a year. Grouse opportunities are limited but we have been seeing more near our cabin so hopefully the population is recovering a bit.

I personally have never hunted over a pointer, I hunted once over pointing labs but the only bird they pointed was a cripple that one of them caught. A buddy hunts with a guy that has a pair of English Setters, I may try to go on a hunt with them this fall to see what it’s like.

The short haired and wire haired dogs are out of consideration, between her family fostering dogs and a decade as a vet tech my wife has learned she has a mild allergy to their hair which bothers her skin. Long haired dogs however don’t bother her which is why we got a golden over a lab and the reason why the Irish/Red setter and Small Munsterlander were the two breeds I am currently looking into.

 

[TSAMP]

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[Bsnyder]

Had him about 3 weeks he’s never had any training. Basics are coming along well. It’s a different ball of wax training a dog with a brain capacity of a 18-20 weeks he’s never old puppy in a 3 year old body.

 

[jmez]

Yeah.

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[Cant hit em]

Good singles


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[KurtR]

Good singles


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I was going to ask how you ran them but seen singles at that bottom. That is a tight set up with a right to left wind would be a challenge for any dog to punch past 1 to the go bird.

For discussion if one was going to run as a quad how would you pick them up and why?

Im going 4 its the go bird, then 2 , then 3, then 1 with the hopes that he understands not going back to the area of the fall on 3 is not acceptable and i think with the wind it would be to tight to push past.

In training i would run it as an interrupted quad throw 1,2,3 and pick up three then throw 4 and pick that up as an under the arc then go 2,1. Then a long blind under the arc of 2 or 3 depending on cover and the topography of the grounds.

Supper jealous of the nice places you have to train

 

[Cant hit em]

I would do the quad in the order i marked them with 1 as the go bird and 4 as last picked up. My dog wouldn’t run passed mark 1 to get to 4 if it was still there , they were slightly under the arc but almost in line.


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