the dude is the CHAIRMAN of the WILDLIFE COMMISSION. He has nothing to do with NDOW. He is appointed by the Governor and NDOW reports to the commission. get your facts straight holy crap.Should Nevada follow Arizona and abolish the auction tags? Raffle them for similar money?
Wonder how the president of the NDOW commission would vote on that? That is him in this auction tag trophy pic.
Conflict of interest?
YesShould Nevada follow Arizona and abolish the auction tags?
No offense, but you don’t have the numbers in front of you because they likely don’t exist. You can compare the revenue from states like AZ that both auction and raffle the same tag, and the auction tags generally out-raise the raffles 3x-4x. Never mind that raffling 2 of the same tag will not generate 2x the revenue due to demand cannibalization.Yes. Theres not a single reason any publicly owned and managed game species belongs to the richest/highest bidder. All the great conservationist would be against this and predicted this similar kind of thing, Leopold, Teddy, etc.
I don’t buy that raffle tickets can’t make up for rid of auction. I don’t have it in front of me but I’ve seen the numbers they bring in and it’s in the hundred of thousands every year per state that does it.
Guide pictured next to the auction tag hunter is the Chairman of the NBWC. Nevada Board of Wildlife Commissioners. The NBWC has everything to do with NDOW. Guides all their actions.the dude is the CHAIRMAN of the WILDLIFE COMMISSION. He has nothing to do with NDOW. He is appointed by the Governor and NDOW reports to the commission. get your facts straight holy crap.
man every time i look at the picture you created it makes me cringe. you kinda sound like a little kid throwing a fit because some other kids got something you wanted and you cant have it. I think it might be time to grow a little and stop being so concerned with what other men do with their lives.Guide pictured next to the auction tag hunter is the Chairman of the NBWC. Nevada Board of Wildlife Commissioners. The NBWC has everything to do with NDOW. Guides all their actions.
In their YouTube name and elsewhere, the NBWC refers to themselves casually as "NDOW Commission" and I took that same liberty.
No offense, but you don’t have the numbers in front of you because they likely don’t exist. You can compare the revenue from states like AZ that both auction and raffle the same tag, and the auction tags generally out-raise the raffles 3x-4x. Never mind that raffling 2 of the same tag will not generate 2x the revenue due to demand cannibalization.
IMO this situation is similar to the defund the police movement we saw a few years back, a knee jerk over-reaction to a situation that would have been better addressed through minor tweaks to the existing system rather throwing the baby out with the bath water.
Edit: to put some numbers to it, the 2024 AZ desert sheep auction tag raised $430K and I have read the raffle tag raised $87.5K.
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man every time i look at the picture you created it makes me cringe. you kinda sound like a little kid throwing a fit because some other kids got something you wanted and you cant have it. I think it might be time to grow a little and stop being so concerned with what other men do with their lives.
in the end you're only mad at the actions because you cant play in that rich mans game. if you were casting offers too this post wouldnt exist.
All good points. Oregon has both and I believe the auctions pull more money - some of which goes to the hosting oganization and the rest goes to ODFW for that species [as I recall]; so here, not absolutely everything goes to that species and possibly might leave the state depending on the benefitting host organization..... and the auction tags generally out-raise the raffles 3x-4x. Never mind that raffling 2 of the same tag will not generate 2x the revenue due to demand cannibalization.
Edit: to put some numbers to it, the 2024 AZ desert sheep auction tag raised $430K and I have read the raffle tag raised $87.5K.....
It seems like you may be putting words in the mouths of the creators of the NA wildlife model, given Shane Mahoney - a noted supporter of the model - disagrees.Wyoming Super tag has raised over 12 million since 2013, 1.5 Million last this year alone. Don't have much time to look into the rest right now. There could be tweaks in every state to make up for the lost auction revenue, easily. And no offense taken, but right back at you with the comparison to the defund the police movement. Very confused by that comparison. Not even in the same realm. Bottom line is I dont support trophy OIL species going to the highest bidder. Neither did the very people who are responsible for the fact that we have these opportunities in the first place. The creation of the North American model of Wildlife conservation was to, in part, prohibit such things.
Of the 4 guys in the disgusting picture, which one are you?man every time i look at the picture you created it makes me cringe. you kinda sound like a little kid throwing a fit because some other kids got something you wanted and you cant have it. I think it might be time to grow a little and stop being so concerned with what other men do with their lives.
in the end you're only mad at the actions because you cant play in that rich mans game. if you were casting offers too this post wouldnt exist.
I think the optics of it all is what causes the biggest grief.I mean, just spitballing here. If they hunted like this and still raised more money than raffles I'm fine with selling a couple tags a year. Sometimes these 'hunts' seem too canned and the animal has zero chance. Bleh
Of the 4 guys in the disgusting picture, which one are you?
Too much to ask that a political appointee (commissioner) should not be too cozy with the auction tag he authorized?