Nutrition heresy: update, I was wrong

Joined
Apr 13, 2022
Messages
61
What kind of plant foods would make the list of Inupiat foods that were not fermented? I love learning about these primitive foods. In Ukraine I are meatballs that were cooked in grape leaves. Not sure if that’s a Ukraine thing but it was an adventure, loved it.

I was listening to Meateater yesterday and the guest was talking about Native people preserving fish in the alaskan Fall season. According to him they left it out to rot and when it froze would keep it for winter eating. That’s wild!
 
OP
Marbles

Marbles

WKR
Classified Approved
Joined
May 16, 2020
Messages
4,466
Location
AK
What kind of plant foods would make the list of Inupiat foods that were not fermented? I love learning about these primitive foods. In Ukraine I are meatballs that were cooked in grape leaves. Not sure if that’s a Ukraine thing but it was an adventure, loved it.

I was listening to Meateater yesterday and the guest was talking about Native people preserving fish in the alaskan Fall season. According to him they left it out to rot and when it froze would keep it for winter eating. That’s wild!
Willow shoots and young leaves will be eaten fresh, though also preserved in seal oil after being dried.

Wild celery is eat raw, the stems are too moist to preserve in oil (and fermentation is not discussed).

While normally preserved in seal oil, bistort was also fermented for preservation.

Fireweed is both eaten raw and preserved in seal oil.

The roots of tall cottongrass, eskimo potato, and horsetail are collected from mouse catches and eaten raw or cooked fresh. For Eskimo potato it is recommended to eat with seal oil to prevent constipation.

Wild chive would be steamed and eaten as greens, though it is also used as a seasoning.

The tribes of the South East actively cultivated salmon berries and would also eat the raw shoots in the spring. There are many varieties of berries to include crow berries, blue berries, and moose berry that were gathered and eaten.

That is a sample, my wife is the forager and knows more.
 
OP
Marbles

Marbles

WKR
Classified Approved
Joined
May 16, 2020
Messages
4,466
Location
AK
Update on this. After listening to @V2Pnutrition for years and ignoring advice like a fool. I decided to try consuming fast carbs on a heavy muscular endurance workout at the beginning of this month and I though I felt better and recovered faster afterwards, so decided to completely ditch my usual food strategy for my mountain goat hunt. I skipped on adding fat, focused on things I consistently like to eat, and on having lots of fast carbs with some protein mixed in and a goal of consuming 90 grams of carbs an hour while being active and having 20 or so grams of protein ever 4ish hours. I settled on Skittles and jerky and packed 3 pounds of jerky and 6 pounds of Skittles for 14 days.

We finished the hunt early and hiked out on day 5. If anything I did not pack enough as I consumed 4 pounds of Skittles and 2 pounds of jerky in 5 days. Based on distance, elevation gain, and weight carried this was the hardest hunt I have done, but I feel better than I ever have and seriously could have gone back out on day 6 feeling pretty good. On day 5 I eat over 5000 calories.

Over all I noticed less soreness, better energy and motivation, and I felt warmer and used my layers less even though it was colder and windier on an objective level.

The down side is my gums are sore from all the sugar and I'm sure it was horrible for my teeth.

I was also getting over 100 grams of protein per day.

The goat hunt covered 46 miles, 21,000 ft of elevation gain, and about 20 of those miles where under a 100 pound load. My Fenix 7 always told me I was good to train, which normally it tells me I need to rest after a single training day with objectively easier achievements in distance/weight/elevation gain. So more than just a subjective 'I feel better.'

I will never cut weight in the food department again.
 
Last edited:
Joined
May 12, 2018
Messages
383
Location
Idaho
The goat hunt covered 46 miles, 21,000 ft of elevation gain, and about 20 of those miles where under a 100 pound load. My Fenix 7 always told me I was good to train, which normally it tells me I need to rest after a single training day with objectively easier achievements in distance/weight/elevation gain

You forgot a key stat- and two goats! Congrats on the great trip, @Marbles . I'm glad to hear you found something that works well for you.
 
Top