Now they did it. Elk statue burned.

[Marble]

It is not that simple. Would you trust if you were them? They ate healthy amazing food, then were put on reservations without the resources to continue their ways. Provided processed food rations, alcohol, disease. This thread highlights the desire to pick a side and dig in. A constant battle. Their idea of “opportunity “ might not match your ideals. You can support a cause even if you don’t agree with all methods or all of the message if the foundation provides a betterment for mankind and addresses mistakes in our past.

It is that simple. But people like you concentrate on on what happened in the past and want to complain and get attention. Mean while it does nothing to help the current situation. Their feelings are hurt, they have been treated like shit historically and they have had very poor role modeling in general to dig them out of the mess they are in. But the solution for any of the issues they face lay within themselves. Any minority culture cannot be saved by anyone but themselves. Everything is available to them, they just need to beleive in it like the rest of society.

 

[4rcgoat]

They are useful idiots dancing a a puppeteer's dance. The ones manipulating the strings are in the shadows and their objective is the dissolution of our country and its way of government.
Follow the money.
No one can deny that, despite progress, we have more work to do as a country and a society in terms of becoming blind to race. Hopefully, if any good at all can be gleaned from this sh*t show, it will be that people who wouldn't have considered their own attitudes and thoughts, will take the time to do an honest assessment and act on their conclusions in a positive manner.
There are some truly well intended people out there hoping to make us a better society. But make no mistake, their efforts are being twisted and stolen by people who ascribe to a Marxist ideology and whose end game is not just racial equality.
I've broken my own code by even commenting on this in a public way. I don't do social media AT ALL and rarely comment in public. But today is the birthday of the greatest human experiment in self governance in the history of our species. We live in a place where, if a person is willing to do the work, they can achieve vertical mobility though economic strata and enjoy rights and freedoms not found anywhere else on earth. Being an American is an idea, not an ethnic history. Any person can come here, (again...do the work) and be a vibrant, integral part of the experiment.
Look at the crowds doing so much of the destruction. Lots of them, and I mean LOTS, are wearing designer clothes, are slightly to extremely "well fed", and holding thousand dollar phones while they are screaming autistically about how life here just SUCKS and everything needs to be torn down. The water they sat over and crapped into that morning was cleaner than what 90% of the rest of the worlds population gets to drink. I know, because I've seen it.
Lack of discipline and perspective is a cancer among much of us right now. The fastest fix for that is a catastrophic dose of reality. I pray it never comes to that.
So my Betsy Ross is flying in front of my house today as it does every 4th. Every time I hoist it I reflect on the funerals I have attended for men and women who paid a profound price to uphold the dreams of the men who originally fought under that flag.
I realize this may come across to some as the old man at the end of his driveway screaming at clouds, but it's just my way to appeal to an audience I value, to take an honest look at how lucky we are to be part of this imperfect, flawed, and messy yet beautiful experiment. We can each resolve to do our small parts to make it, and us, better.
Rant switch - OFF.

Could not have said it better myself.

 

[tdhanses]

I don’t believe anyone is concerned if you view them as credible, actually that is the point.

It’s interesting as I read the posts the overwhelming majority do not think as you do, wonder how this relates to the country as a whole, guess we’ll see with time but I can’t get behind the violence.

I’m also not a fan of being told I’m racist because I was born white. Who knows maybe you are right and major change will come but I doubt it, if any change happens I fear it’ll just be a further divide as people become disgusted with the violence in the name of violence. I fully support all my friends of color being treated equal but not being given a hand out because of color which seems like many feel is what they deserve.

We’ll watch this all play out but I don’t feel you’ll see the outcome your expecting.

 

[thinhorn_AK]

The stupid is strong in this thread.

 

[Oregon]

I hate this.
people get such a horrible opinion of Oregon based on the I-5 corridor.
We’re such a big state controlled by those Libtards in a super narrow stretch of valley.
my biggest regret is that I learned how to make great money from the Pacific Ocean.
I truly wish Idaho had a coastline. Better yet, Montana.

 

[Opah]

They are clearly getting through to people who typically would not hear them.

Yes they are and what I hear loud and clear is:
We are destructive morons that cannot think for ourselves !
They have no Honor and no respect for past generations that provided them the Right to be
destructive morons that cannot think for themselves !

 

[Hogyotedeer]

Let's face it, the MSM has done a great job brainwashing half the country....They started a fire out of nothing.

 

[Dustin the wind]

I hate this.
people get such a horrible opinion of Oregon based on the I-5 corridor.
We’re such a big state controlled by those Libtards in a super narrow stretch of valley.
my biggest regret is that I learned how to make great money from the Pacific Ocean.
I truly wish Idaho had a coastline. Better yet, Montana.

I have a lot of friends still fishing back in OR. Most of them blow it, wish they would save up and do something else with it.

 

[Nutsknr]

As always, the hand gets overplayed.

All the soy boys and college girls out enjoying the summer reliving 68’, will die off soon.

Economic reality is closing in.

They have no money. All the woke companies that will start to pay a price, will start looking for the back door. Mommy and Daddy getting shitcanned for something they said 20years ago means no more free ride for the white elite kids.

The tech companies that think they are safe by PC speech, now are coming under fire for lack of minorities.

Pro sports will see it as well. Same as ESPN did.

See there is a VAST unheard minority out there. They are just normal folks, all races, who just simply won’t support being lectured to. They will just shut it down.

All this “change” happens only when that majority allows it.

Shootings, crime, lawlessness is the fastest way for the majority to say NO.

All the high minded liberal discussions, END, when it’s YOUR house being destroyed, your neighborhood being hit by high crime, and your family put in danger.

The rules of socialism have never changed. Eventually you run out of other people’s money.

 

[thinhorn_AK]

I hate this.
people get such a horrible opinion of Oregon based on the I-5 corridor.
We’re such a big state controlled by those Libtards in a super narrow stretch of valley.
my biggest regret is that I learned how to make great money from the Pacific Ocean.
I truly wish Idaho had a coastline. Better yet, Montana.

of course the entire state gets judged based on the I5 corridor, as you said in your next sentence, the state is controlled buy the libtards. I’ve had people try to tell me that Washington state is a conservative state, no it isn’t, it’s controlled by the libtards. Places like Oregon and Washington are liberal shitholes, no America loving individual should spend any time in either.

 

[Wild_Musk]

I don't know about elk, but whitetails are the KKK of the deer family. I remember the first time one exercised it's white privilege on my garden. It apparently thought that because we lived in a modern progressive neighborhood it was safe to exercise it's will on me. Micro-agressor! I was promptly contacted by our HOA for skinning it under our walk out basement, but it was worth it. Whitetail totalitarianism has no place in the world.

Happy Tuesday! Stay safe!

 

[Oregon]

of course the entire state gets judged based on the I5 corridor, as you said in your next sentence, the state is controlled buy the libtards. I’ve had people try to tell me that Washington state is a conservative state, no it isn’t, it’s controlled by the libtards. Places like Oregon and Washington are liberal shitholes, no America loving individual should spend any time in either.

Well, I love America and spend roughly 340 days a year here.
There still isn’t a single law/policy/executive order that personally affects me.
I buy ammo when I want
I buy guns when I want
I kill critters when I want

My property tax is a little high, but I pay zero sales tax. I dig clams at low tide, catch Dungeness crab on the incoming.
I can shoot ducks 107 days a year, deer hunt 35, elk 30, fish steelhead and salmon year round, rockfish and Lings year round.
My summer time high temp is 72, low 58.
Winter high 55 low 48.
My upland bird season goes from Sept 1 thru Feb 1
Goose goes from September thru March.
Gas is a little expensive but my 4 mile commute makes up for it.
Within a 20 mile radius of my house I have killed deer, elk, bear, grouse, quail, bandtail pigeon, geese, ducks, tuna, salmon, steelhead, halibut, rockfish, lingcod, clams, crab.

Yes, the politics absolutely suck in this state.
Doesn’t bother me one bit. Not a single thing ruins my daily life.

I fish or hunt 320-330 days a year.
How can a sane man not think that is awesome????

 

[thinhorn_AK]

Well, I love America and spend roughly 340 days a year here.
There still isn’t a single law/policy/executive order that personally affects me.
I buy ammo when I want
I buy guns when I want
I kill critters when I want

My property tax is a little high, but I pay zero sales tax. I dig clams at low tide, catch Dungeness crab on the incoming.
I can shoot ducks 107 days a year, deer hunt 35, elk 30, fish steelhead and salmon year round, rockfish and Lings year round.
My summer time high temp is 72, low 58.
Winter high 55 low 48.
My upland bird season goes from Sept 1 thru Feb 1
Goose goes from September thru March.
Gas is a little expensive but my 4 mile commute makes up for it.
Within a 20 mile radius of my house I have killed deer, elk, bear, grouse, quail, bandtail pigeon, geese, ducks, tuna, salmon, steelhead, halibut, rockfish, lingcod, clams, crab.

Yes, the politics absolutely suck in this state.
Doesn’t bother me one bit. Not a single thing ruins my daily life.

I fish or hunt 320-330 days a year.
How can a sane man not think that is awesome????

because I can do all the same stuff you do in a state that is t over run by liberal nut jobs. I can go into a city without getting re routed by ANTIFA, I can go into restaraunts without being accused of cultural appropriation, I can apply rules equally without getting called a racist and losing my job. You couldn’t pay me to live in Oregon or Washington, sorry.

glad you like it there though.

 

[Oregon]

because I can do all the same stuff you do in a state that is t over run by liberal nut jobs. I can go into a city without getting re routed by ANTIFA, I can go into restaraunts without being accused of cultural appropriation, I can apply rules equally without getting called a racist and losing my job. You couldn’t pay me to live in Oregon or Washington, sorry.

glad you like it there though.

Well, why do you need to go to cities? I don’t. Went to Portland in February to fly out to Mexico to fish.
Bummer, I don’t have an international airport.
My county is a strong Red color.
Every state has a shithole.
Anchorage is an absolute shit hole.
I sure don’t judge Ak on Anchorage.
I lived in Ketchikan for quite a few years.
I get it. Your angry at some place you know nothing about in the grand scheme of things.
Carry on!

 

[thinhorn_AK]

Well, why do you need to go to cities? I don’t. Went to Portland in February to fly out to Mexico to fish.
Bummer, I don’t have an international airport.
My county is a strong Red color.
Every state has a shithole.
Anchorage is an absolute shit hole.
I sure don’t judge Ak on Anchorage.
I lived in Ketchikan for quite a few years.
I get it. Your angry at some place you know nothing about in the grand scheme of things.
Carry on!

typical....I don’t agree with you so I do t know what I’m taking about....meanwhile I have lots of family across the state of Oregon....but I know nothing about it.

 

[Oregon]

typical....I don’t agree with you so I do t know what I’m taking about....meanwhile I have lots of family across the state of Oregon....but I know nothing about it.

Cool. What city do you live in? Can you answer that?

 

[Dustin the wind]

Not just the I5 corridor, the coast is full of some of the worst in Oregon. I’ve lived in many OR counties, all liberal. A good deal of libotamy going on up the gorge as well. We said goodbye to a lot of central OR as well. Bend, hipsters and methheads

 

[thinhorn_AK]

Cool. What city do you live in? Can you answer that?

I live between a few different cities, not anchorage though which I agree is a shithole.

 

[AgentVenom]

I hate this.
people get such a horrible opinion of Oregon based on the I-5 corridor.
We’re such a big state controlled by those Libtards in a super narrow stretch of valley.
my biggest regret is that I learned how to make great money from the Pacific Ocean.
I truly wish Idaho had a coastline. Better yet, Montana.

Cool, try being from NY state.

 

[Flyjunky]

Bullshit. A generation of overindulged children acting out cause they don’t get their way. This quit being about Mr Floyd and police brutality a long time ago.

Amen!