Not sure how to feel about Tribal Hunting…

[pparris3]

After some personal experiences with people who live in the area, and further research into the matter, I’m not sure how I feel about the rights and regulations of tribal hunting as outlined by the Montana FWP in this FAQ I’ll tag below. I get tribal land rights, but just a bowling alley style shootout of bison and elk without tags and without documentation just because an ancestor may have hunted there several hundred years ago? Meanwhile, we all play the points game and pay hundreds/thousands for tags and a hope at a fair chase harvest instead of hunting whenever, outside of season dates, and all that. What say you all? I’m surprised I haven’t heard or read much outroar about it, honestly. Trying to not sound xenophobic or whatever the word would be, but does not seem right to me.

https://myfwp.mt.gov/getRepositoryFile?objectID=75713

 

[Dos Perros]

I think if you saw it yourself, experienced it, you might feel differently.

 

[pparris3]

I think if you saw it yourself, experienced it, you might feel differently.

What do you mean? I definitely don’t like it, if thats what you mean. Not sure what “it” is here

 

[huntnful]

After some personal experiences with people who live in the area, and further research into the matter, I’m not sure how I feel about the rights and regulations of tribal hunting as outlined by the Montana FWP in this FAQ I’ll tag below. I get tribal land rights, but just a bowling alley style shootout of bison and elk without tags and without documentation just because an ancestor may have hunted there several hundred years ago? Meanwhile, we all play the points game and pay hundreds/thousands for tags and a hope at a fair chase harvest instead of hunting whenever, outside of season dates, and all that. What say you all? I’m surprised I haven’t heard or read much outroar about it, honestly. Trying to not sound xenophobic or whatever the word would be, but does not seem right to me.

https://myfwp.mt.gov/getRepositoryFile?objectID=75713

I have a hard time envisioning them having an all out shootout and wiping out animals on the landscape they can freely hunt. I have a feeling it's probably decently policed within their groups and ethics are outlined by their own elders. I really have no experience with it, but that's how I view it going down anyways.

 

[pparris3]

I have a hard time envisioning them having an all out shootout and wiping out animals on the landscape they can freely hunt. I have a feeling it's probably decently policed within their groups and ethics are outlined by their own elders. I really have no experience with it, but that's how I view it going down anyways.

I hope so. I have huge respect for places like the San Carlos that have managed such an incredible elk herd. Conversely, it makes me cringe to hear tribal members taking game whenever and wherever without regulation, even for food. My sources come from friends and guides who live close to YNP that it’s a little bit more of a free for all

 

[dirtshooter]

The natives in canada have a free for all on animals and it's sickening. Pick a rez on a map and draw a 100 mile radius and in that radius there are no large game like moose or elk. They over hunt non stop.

 

[huntnful]

I hope so. I have huge respect for places like the San Carlos that have managed such an incredible elk herd. Conversely, it makes me cringe to hear tribal members taking game whenever and wherever without regulation, even for food. My sources come from friends and guides who live close to YNP that it’s a little bit more of a free for all

It's definitely not ideal for the animal to be able to be hunted with any weapon, at any time. But if they killed them all, there'd be none left on their land, and it is what it is then. And that wouldn't be ideal for them. So there must be some form of internal management I would think.

 

[cnelk]

There’s lakes in N Minnesota that have been fished out on reservations.

It happens

 

[GSPHUNTER]

Agree or not tribal land is also know as tribal nation. They are a sovereign state unto themselves. While they do follow most USA laws, they govern themselves, and can, and do make some of their own laws and rules. I have been on guided hunts on two reservation. While trial members have more leeway for taking game, they still have laws they are required to follow. I have not hunted trial land in Montana, so I can't speak to how they handle their hunts.

 

[The Guide]

Guess what...

No matter what we say/think/like about their tribal rights given to them by their treaties, that is an unbreakable contract between them and the Federal Government that supersedes our states right for game harvest. MT FWP has little authority over what happens on these hunts.

Jay

 

[TaperPin]

Tribes are required by the federal Fish and Wildlife to make seasons and manage hunting. It’s not uncommon to allow a tribal member to fill tags of others, or to have quite generous numbers of tags, but it’s hardly a free for all.

Some tribes were forced to be stuck with crap resources, others have better hunting than 99% of western states. Some manage it well, some less so, but it’s up to the tribal members to decide how their resources are best used to benefit their membership.

I have native relatives in two western states that have a hunting tradition that goes back 13,000 years in those states. I think it’s great that can continue.

 

[fisherman983]

Oregon is a dumpster fire and I can't stand the rights they've been given. They are wiping out herds all over the state.
I'm all for natives doing what they want as long as they use their ancestoral hunting/fishing equipment.


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[Jason Snyder]

I’m sure this thread will go well.