Nightforce NX6 Lineup

[Jake Larsen]

Do you not understand the relationship size difference between big game at 0-80 yards with fixed points, and big game at 0-800 yards with fixed points?

Not to mention that functionally speaking an archer cannot make the adjustment to a single pin slider without blowing out game in a dynamic situation (in many cases). At rifle ranges you can dial all you want without worrying about that small amount of movement.


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[freddyG]

Significant is relative. How many do you need?

And at this point there is going to be another option with that reticle significantly less expensive that will dramatically reduce the potential pool.

I saw that you posted that the S2H scope needs to be tested first, and the way it was worded didn’t inspire confidence that it was going to be a first round success.

Before NF released the nx6, there really wasn’t an F1 scope to use the thlr reticle in, because the f1 nxs was permanently discontinued. Now at least there is a decent host for that reticle.

 

[medvedyt]

I haven’t yet looked through all the comments. This is one of the ideas I drew up four years ago. It was in response to a similar thread where folks were complaining about reticles and some said to not complain unless you can show what you want. New year, same story. In general, this is what I want. I have variations of this, but you get the idea. To my best recollection I intended these for a 2.5-12x. Little dot only would illuminate. See in the timber at first/last light (#1 priority), and all the references I would need, and nothing more.

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those are almost german 4 just saying ...

 

[Stinky Coyote]

Do you not understand the relationship size difference between big game at 0-80 yards with fixed points, and big game at 0-800 yards with fixed points?

Sort of, only pinned to 70 and reticled to 640 steel only on that, and never bow killed past 65 and rifle is 620 which I dialled and 500 reticle mostly because I ran more dialling set ups than reticle and without going rounds again everyone prolly got the point as we’ve done this before and pretty sure there’s a point where the dial precision to kill passes the point where the reticle is still ‘reliable’ and is 800 in that picture for 99% and when did this turn from winning competitions method overtake the hunting side. Where pretty sure from your own typed words years back before was something along the lines of moderate amount can consistently kill to 450 and very few to 600. Combined with every other guy on here limiting tags shooting to 600 or less for various natural laws despite the other shooting they do and how far they do it. Factors outside of dialling vs reticle far greater the issue.

Not trying to go another round just address the hunting only side of this reticle desire and stand up for the reticle fighters a bit. I’m done dialling (eyes) and never could lose the time on archery gear with the step of dialling so with this ffp I and ballistic rangefinders I see same speed to solution advantages anyway even if eyes still dial worthy. 50-70 tofs pretty similar to 450-600 tofs from analyzing this years back and yada yada. Never competed against anything but the critters and still keep up with any tag filler I know regardless what else they do and they do compete archery and rifle stuff.

I get your s2h reticle and glad it’s happening but you’ll see I’m curious about your second reticle as I’m out on the dialling stuff period. Less steps, plenty of precision to fold tags where they get folded with in optic solutions. Zero crossover guy. Straight from the hunt only end of this discussion. So any word yet on your second reticle? Is it gonna be for the reticler segment of hunters?

 

[medvedyt]

Yea that’s the reticle I want please

almost a german 4 ...

 

[eLightfoot]

almost a german 4 ...

Yes, German 4 improved. Would be awesome, similar to THRL but even more simple. Visible at low power, and has windage and holdovers you would actually use.

 

[prm]

those are almost german 4 just saying ...

Exactly (and elements of a #1)

 

[Stinky Coyote]

Not to mention that functionally speaking an archer cannot make the adjustment to a single pin slider without blowing out game in a dynamic situation (in many cases). At rifle ranges you can dial all you want without worrying about that small amount of movement.


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And sitting over country with gaps and you’ve already pre ranged the crossing trails etc and whitetails on the rut cruising constantly. You’ve got three trails they keep crossing at 1.5, 2.7 and 3.1 mil and you’ve got 30 yard gap they walk through and pause for a sniff maybe couple seconds at best? Not dialling.

Anyway, prepare how you like just gave you one real example of just my last hunt alone where even if eyes could see the turret without readers I wasn’t going to dial. Didn’t see the buck I want anyway but I was as prepared as I could be and speed was going to be deciding factor. Lots of bow kills I had time at any range, not the norm, and got it done from 50-65 on quite a few big deer. Do you count the not enough time as not enough time so not a lost opportunity? Or if you or someone else were prepared was it enough time? Only the guys that folded the tag would know.

We could argue about examples and what if’s till cows come home but let’s just realize both dial and reticle can work to fold tags where 99% are folded. We all want the same thing here. I’m all in on reticle and all in on hunting only side of this fight with nightforce and every other manufacturer now lol. Specifically nightforce as I’m now hooked.

I don’t need another one, I just want another one lol. And perfect a couple little things and the reticle is 3rd on list I want, more exit pupil and mag range what I want so mpvo dmx please. I’ll bitch about tuning the dmx later. Let’s just start where it’s easy and something they already have and put it in one level above lpvo exit pupil and mag ranges...reticle good. There’s far more about how they build a scope and illum and controls etc that I’m all about.

 

[streamerfish]

Sort of, only pinned to 70 and reticled to 640 steel only on that, and never bow killed past 65 and rifle is 620 which I dialled and 500 reticle mostly because I ran more dialling set ups than reticle and without going rounds again everyone prolly got the point as we’ve done this before and pretty sure there’s a point where the dial precision to kill passes the point where the reticle is still ‘reliable’ and is 800 in that picture for 99% and when did this turn from winning competitions method overtake the hunting side. Where pretty sure from your own typed words years back before was something along the lines of moderate amount can consistently kill to 450 and very few to 600. Combined with every other guy on here limiting tags shooting to 600 or less for various natural laws despite the other shooting they do and how far they do it. Factors outside of dialling vs reticle far greater the issue.

Not trying to go another round just address the hunting only side of this reticle desire and stand up for the reticle fighters a bit. I’m done dialling (eyes) and never could lose the time on archery gear with the step of dialling so with this ffp I and ballistic rangefinders I see same speed to solution advantages anyway even if eyes still dial worthy. 50-70 tofs pretty similar to 450-600 tofs from analyzing this years back and yada yada. Never competed against anything but the critters and still keep up with any tag filler I know regardless what else they do and they do compete archery and rifle stuff.

I get your s2h reticle and glad it’s happening but you’ll see I’m curious about your second reticle as I’m out on the dialling stuff period. Less steps, plenty of precision to fold tags where they get folded with in optic solutions. Zero crossover guy. Straight from the hunt only end of this discussion. So any word yet on your second reticle? Is it gonna be for the reticler segment of hunters?

What is a Reticle segment of hunters?

If your talking about like a non dialing turret, SFP type of hunting scope theirs already a ton of them on the market to choose from. Trijicon make great scopes for such things for a reasonable price.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the whole point of this new scope/reticle is to be able to use it at "normal" hunting ranges effectively without needing to dial, and be able to dial up a 800 yard shot effectively, with the same one scope. One scope to rule them all........(in theory)

I'm pretty sure it was said that the second reticle is more of a "standard" FFP mil sight. Still a dial it up type of reticle.

 

[Stinky Coyote]

What is a Reticle segment of hunters?

If your talking about like a non dialing turret, SFP type of hunting scope theirs already a ton of them on the market to choose from. Trijicon make great scopes for such things for a reasonable price.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the whole point of this new scope/reticle is to be able to use it at "normal" hunting ranges effectively without needing to dial, and be able to dial up a 800 yard shot effectively, with the same one scope. One scope to rule them all........(in theory)

I'm pretty sure it was said that the second reticle is more of a "standard" FFP mil sight. Still a dial it up type of reticle.

Can’t wait to see what a standard ffp type will look like in this upcoming option. Looking forward to following along and bitching about all this with everyone else. Diallers, reticlers, diallers and reticlers. Hunters, hunters/competitive shooters crossover, and competitive shooters have plenty of options so they can zip it. Ffp isn’t just for wind. If it can get that right it can sure as hell get drop right for distances that cover 99% of where tags get folded. I’ll be in the reticle only, hunt only camp. Sfp no. Way more upside and versatility in ffp even if just from hunt only camp.

 

[199p]

No idea when they will make it down here or what the price will be but have ordered a 2-12 to cheek out in the 4a i

 

[MThuntrrr]

So close but a no for me. I got super excited until I saw the reticles. Fail. I can tolerate the MOA-R reticles on my NX8. These not so much. Replace the reticle and take my money.

 

[Fowl Play]

Damn… was hoping for a late Christmas present.

Just a bunch of coal under those Christmas Trees

 

[KY_coop]

Please report back. Tag me if you remember. Haven’t seen much on the 4-16 credo

4-16 credo is pretty great for a hunting scope. I dont have any complaints about the reticle but ive seen alot of others complain about it.

 

[100percent]

This is the most obsessive, cheapest, toughest, crowd of men, I have ever seen! You would think Louis Vuitton came out with a new purse lineup!
I’m so glad that all of you whining bastards aren’t going to buy these NX6’s. Maybe they will put all the 2x12 sfp moar scopes on sale so, I can afford to replace all of my 2.5x10’s. I will kill a whole lot of critters with those terrible moar 30 reticles in all conditions!

 

[acochran]

I don’t think Mil-C is as bad as it’s made out to be. Is it ideal? No, but I have killed critters near to far with it from offhand at 60 yards to way out there and it’s never been a limiting factor. It’s not the perfect hunting reticle by any means but I’m also not going to eat a tag because I’m using it.

I agree that the Mil-C works just fine in my experience. It also illuminates on low mag if you think you can’t see it well. If the Mil-C was in the 2-12, I’d be happy with it. Also, there’s an aversion to 2nd focal plane for some reason, but I have the 2.5-20 in SFP and enjoy it as well for even better reticle visibility.

I don’t prefer the tree on the FC-MRx reticle, but it seems to fit the bill otherwise. The reticle has a .2 mil center dot and .06 mil thick stadia. That’s 4x thicker center dot and 50% thicker stadia lines than in the 2.5-20 Mil-C. I imagine you’ll be able to use the reticle at low power without any issue. If it’s any thicker, you’d begin to lose precision in my opinion. Still, I likely won’t buy one because I don’t like the tree cluttering the sight picture.

 

[HuntHarder]

This is the most obsessive, cheapest, toughest, crowd of men, I have ever seen! You would think Louis Vuitton came out with a new purse lineup!
I’m so glad that all of you whining bastards aren’t going to buy these NX6’s. Maybe they will put all the 2x12 sfp moar scopes on sale so, I can afford to replace all of my 2.5x10’s. I will kill a whole lot of critters with those terrible moar 30 reticles in all conditions!

Impossible. The reticles are unusable.

 

[mthayr]

This is the most obsessive, cheapest, toughest, crowd of men, I have ever seen! You would think Louis Vuitton came out with a new purse lineup!
I’m so glad that all of you whining bastards aren’t going to buy these NX6’s. Maybe they will put all the 2x12 sfp moar scopes on sale so, I can afford to replace all of my 2.5x10’s. I will kill a whole lot of critters with those terrible moar 30 reticles in all conditions!

Where's the Meme Gang - this thread needs some lightening up... @ddd-shooter @Billy Goat @go_deep

 

[100percent]

Impossible. The reticles are unusable.

Isn’t that the damndest thing you ever heard! There is how we would like it to be and how it is…. This lineup checks a lot of boxes! I really wanted a 4W1 reticle but, alas…. I digress

 

[Billy Goat]

Where's the Meme Gang - this thread needs some lightening up... @ddd-shooter @Billy Goat @go_deep

Dammit, most of us have day jobs.


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