Nightforce NX6 Lineup

[huntnful]

Which trijicon reticle do you use?

 

[ID-Muley]

May not make a difference but I emailed my NF contact saying Rokslide is not happy with the reticle selection. Lol

 

[Geewhiz]

That’s not remotely true. It is not hard to make an FFP reticle truly usable on low power.

example? Every ffp reticle I have ever seen disappears at low mag ranges unless you turn on the illum.

 

[B_Reynolds_AK]

May not make a difference but I emailed my NF contact saying Rokslide is not happy with the reticle selection. Lol

Well, one way to look at it is that if the Unknown scope works out, it will have a lot more support and less market dilution from people buying NX6’s.

 

[HuntHarder]

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Very similar to the Moa-C. I don't think it's perfect, but it's gonna be plenty usable for us simple MOA guys. I rarely, if ever, shoot long range below 10x tho.

 

[Geewhiz]

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is the trijicon moa reticle not the same as the nf moar reticle?

 

[Chris in TN]

That's been what I have been trying to bring out be asking people what their version of "visible on low power" means.

I've drawn and posted at least two versions of my idea of what a reticle should be.

The big takehome points are that - first of all - even a basic SFP duplex-type reticle has a large degree of functionality when you start from the perspective that 'functional' includes always being visible without artificial illumination.

I have thirty year old Leupolds with basic duplexes and I can 100% see the reticles well enough to shoot with them, in the woods, at last legal light, at least as close to dark as I can still see the target. I'm not saying the reticles are crystal clear at dark; I am saying that if I can see the target I can see the reticle well enough to hit it. That's the bar/hurdle for reticles for eastern deer hunters. Especially in later seasons when the game is shooting mature bucks that pop out in a food plot two minutes before the end of shooting hours.

The single biggest advancement I have seen in FFP reticles is when Burris (this isn't an endorsement of their scopes, it's a recognition of one thing they got right) made several reticles with tapered sides. Like this:

Ballistic Plex E1™ FFP (2-10x and 3-15x) | Burris Optics

www.burrisoptics.com

I'm not saying those are perfect; they are not. I am not advocating for BDC reticles. Just saying the tapered crosshairs are a step in the right direction.

I wish other makers would consider those as a starting point. I'm willing to switch from MOA to MRAD and would overlook a lot of finer details if that's what it took. I just get tired of reticles designed to wow people who don't use them.

 

[WeiserBucks]

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is the trijicon moa reticle not the same as the nf moar reticle?

No, dot vs crosshair.

 

[Tl15]

Very similar to the Moa-C. I don't think it's perfect, but it's gonna be plenty usable for us simple MOA guys. I rarely, if ever, shoot long range below 10x tho.

Yep, MOA-C is my choice here. BUT… then I’ve just bought a Trijicon Credo HX for $1,000 more. I just don’t see the appeal at that price point.

 

[huntnful]

Very similar to the Moa-C. I don't think it's perfect, but it's gonna be plenty usable for us simple MOA guys. I rarely, if ever, shoot long range below 10x tho.

I shot the Mil C for a full season and was unhappy with it. Have you seen the actual reticle dimensions posted somewhere? A small change in boldness of the lines makes a huge difference IMO.

I’m not saying the MOA C or MIL C are unusable, but they aren’t even CLOSE to optimal. I could barely kill a buck at 130 yards at last light. Just looked like a deer floating around in my view with no reference or clarity of the reticle. It was a very subpar experience. That was with a 4-20 ATACR MIL C

 

[Formidilosus]

example? Every ffp reticle I have ever seen disappears at low mag ranges unless you turn on the illum.

10 yards-

 

[huntnful]

Yep, MOA-C is my choice here. BUT… then I’ve just bought a Trijicon Credo HX for $1,000 more. I just don’t see the appeal at that price point.

Credo is only SFP. That’s the main difference here. If you’re only looking at SFP scopes and not FFP scopes, then I see what you’re saying for sure.

 

[RockAndSage]

I own an ATACR and a 4-32 sfp nx8
There's hardly a distinguishable difference in the glass, both are decent but not great, especially for the ATACR price.

Any idea how they compare in low light, looking into deep shadows? Or looking generally towards a low sun?

 

[justin davis]

Everyone complains about NF reticles. I’ve been real happy with the Mil C reticle. I really like it But maybe I’m one of the few.

 

[Geewhiz]

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You are proving my point. You cant see the center, but my point is you don't need to at those ranges.

All I'm saying is, even with the dozen reticle option nf offers, people still cant be pleased.

 

[HuntHarder]

Agree. I don't hate the Moar either tho. I am happy to get a dot center.

 

[huntnful]

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is the trijicon moa reticle not the same as the nf moar reticle?

No. The Tenmile is nearly twice as bold, thickness wise, if you actually go into the spec sheet.

And I’m not saying the Tenmile reticle is anything special by any means. But it’s better than any FFP nightforce reticle. I’ve owned them all.

 

[Chris in TN]

"visible on low power" isn't a thing in ffp scopes IMO. That one guy a couple days ago was talking about how he wanted a reticle that was good for low light eastern close range timber hunts but also for long range open country western hunting and he wanted it in a scope that would excel at both. Can't have everything. Wonder what bullet/caliber he use.

That's me. Not sure you're referring specifically to me, but that's absolutely me. You may not realize this but those long-range western scenarios also have animals moving at dawn and dusk. It ain't always midday shooting at an elk on snow. My daughter and I spent way more time looking 50-100 yards into timber in CO this fall than we spent gazing 1000 yards across a meadow. But we did, in fact, do both in the same day, almost every day.

5.56, 6.5cm, 280ai, .45 caliber smokeless muzzleloader, since you asked.

And, yes, I could have one scope that exceled at both if they'd just make it. But they won't. You are simply and completely factually wrong that it couldn't be made. The scopes themselves already exist....pick any NF/trijicon 3-12 or 4-14 or 4-16 with a 50-56mm objective lens and put a Burris tapered reticle in it and an exposed elevation turret and I'd probably shut up. Or maybe that Maven moa-2 reticle. That's the beauty of this - there isn't a single perfect design a reticle must be, to just 'work'. There's a range of crosshair tapers that would serve well enough. You might have 6moa of windage in either direction in 2-moa increments or you might do 10moa, or 8moa. They'd all work.

But what absolutely does not work is 30moa of very thin windage crosshairs or 30moa of very thin elevation holds in a FFP scope. I don't need that. And a system that relies on illumination is one day of forgetting to turn the thing off at dusk, away from failing. I don't need that.

 

[Formidilosus]

You are proving my point. You cant see the center, but my point is you don't need to at those ranges.

All I'm saying is, even with the dozen reticle option nf offers, people still cant be pleased.

You need to be able to aim at low power and that reticle destroys every SFP Leupold, Burris, Swarovski, etc duplex in true low light and cluttered backgrounds- it’s not even close.

 

[HuntHarder]

Haven't seen actual measurements, but looking at the MOA-C, the stadia appear to be 2moa, same as Trijicon.