Newsom signs bill banning single-use propane cylinders popular with campers

Im not a fan of banning things for the sake of banning things. But as a measure to encourage use of refillable propane it makes sense.
 
What we all need is more Government regulation and laws. Legislating every minute detail of our lives is pretty ridiculous. Why not just use common sense laws we already have and actually enforce them? It's already illegal to litter. Make the fine higher and enforce it. Even better, if you get caught littering make them spend an entire day picking up garbage. It's easy to write a check, you won't forget picking up trash all day.
 
Yoder said:
What we all need is more Government regulation and laws. Legislating every minute detail of our lives is pretty ridiculous. Why not just use common sense laws we already have and actually enforce them? It's already illegal to litter. Make the fine higher and enforce it. Even better, if you get caught littering make them spend an entire day picking up garbage. It's easy to write a check, you won't forget picking up trash all day.
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You said it, Enforce it.
 
California refuses to enforce the most basic laws for good living....like controlling criminal activity. What is more basic than your safety? The entire west coast is going to hell in a hand basket. The northeast coast isn't much better either.
 
displacedtexan said:
What percentage of California residents do you think are buying those?
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It is a combination of many things he has done, especially Anti 2nd Amendment. But that is not the only thing he has done, along with the socialist legislature, for example:

"While the Legislature approved hundreds of bills before ending its regular session on Aug. 31, Newsom decides whether they become law.
He finished on Sept. 30 — and vetoed about 18% of nearly 1,000 bills passed in the final days (and nearly 16% of all 1,200 bills passed by the Legislature this year). That’s slightly higher than the 15% for all of last year when he vetoed 156 bills and signed 890, or the similar ratio in 2022, when he blocked some very significant ones. In 2021, he vetoed less than 8%."

1000 new bills (laws). Not just this year, but every year. No one ever thinks about the freedoms that have been lost in all this. So, it is about more than propane canisters, which I do think are purchased by the thousands by people camping in this State.
 
Loo.wii said:
Im not a fan of banning things for the sake of banning things. But as a measure to encourage use of refillable propane it makes sense.
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Same view here. I don't understand the kneejerk reactions I see in this thread. I'd like to see some good, small volume, refillable options. CA being the large market that it is, I expect to see some positive market developments as a result.
 
Continuing to pass more and more complex laws makes it impossible to follow the law, which means law enforcement, directed by the executive branch, can selectively enforce the law against their political enemies. Both parties have learned and take advantage of this to persecute those that don't vote for them.
 
Chrisamx said:
It is a combination of many things he has done, especially Anti 2nd Amendment. But that is not the only thing he has done, along with the socialist legislature, for example:

"While the Legislature approved hundreds of bills before ending its regular session on Aug. 31, Newsom decides whether they become law.
He finished on Sept. 30 — and vetoed about 18% of nearly 1,000 bills passed in the final days (and nearly 16% of all 1,200 bills passed by the Legislature this year). That’s slightly higher than the 15% for all of last year when he vetoed 156 bills and signed 890, or the similar ratio in 2022, when he blocked some very significant ones. In 2021, he vetoed less than 8%."

1000 new bills (laws). Not just this year, but every year. No one ever thinks about the freedoms that have been lost in all this. So, it is about more than propane canisters, which I do think are purchased by the thousands by people camping in this State.
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Thousands.

Compared to how many million residents.

Same with the anti 2a stuff.

I'm not defending him, or it.

Just saying I'm not shocked by any of it.
 
dylanvb said:
I don't understand what point you are trying to make? I don't support anything Newsom does. I am just saying I lived in that state the majority of my life and distinctly remember seeing those almost every time I recreated. The beaches, the mountains, jobsites, the list goes on.
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I'd bet that the majority of the 39 million people that live there aren't affected...
 
4090Sharps said:
Same view here. I don't understand the kneejerk reactions I see in this thread. I'd like to see some good, small volume, refillable options. CA being the large market that it is, I expect to see some positive market developments as a result.
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I am not defending this at all, but you can buy 1 gallon refillable tanks. With an adapter hose you can use it just like the small green ones. At $11 to exchange a 1 pounder, the 1 gallon tank will pay for itself with one fill. But I guess that most people would think this is horrifically inconvenient.
 
NRA4LIFE said:
I am not defending this at all, but you can buy 1 gallon refillable tanks. With an adapter hose you can use it just like the small green ones. At $11 to exchange a 1 pounder, the 1 gallon tank will pay for itself with one fill. But I guess that most people would think this is horrifically inconvenient.
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It might be inconvenient or not, however, personal choice is removed.
 
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