New world record archery bull

[Smokey Bear]

Cell cams and bait…

I beat you to it.

 

[MuleyFever]

Im not giving those guys another hit on their podcast. Anyone care to give the short version?

 

[Turkeygetpwnd38]

Im not giving those guys another hit on their podcast. Anyone care to give the short version?

It’s exactly what everyone thought it was? I’m happy for the guy, he seems pumped, been chasing a world record for many years it seems. Breakdown:
Some guys send him pictures of the bull, he buys thousands of dollars in raffle tickets to get tag, has entire crews and himself searching and hunting for him on public Sept-Nov, they can’t get it done. Find it on a 40 acre lot, gets permission (kind of), sets up blind over bait pile apples/hay, sits for two days and kills it last evening.
There was a misunderstanding with landowner but got cleared up and other neighbor pissed because he’d been feeding the bull in his backyard and bull was likely living on his property most of time. Called warden, investigation, no charges.

 

[ElDiablito]

It’s exactly what everyone thought it was? I’m happy for the guy, he seems pumped, been chasing a world record for many years it seems. Breakdown:
Some guys send him pictures of the bull, he buys thousands of dollars in raffle tickets to get tag, has entire crews and himself searching and hunting for him on public Sept-Nov, they can’t get it done. Find it on a 40 acre lot, gets permission (kind of), sets up blind over bait pile apples/hay, sits for two days and kills it last evening.
There was a misunderstanding with landowner but got cleared up and other neighbor pissed because he’d been feeding the bull in his backyard and bull was likely living on his property most of time. Called warden, investigation, no charges.

You didn’t mention that part about blanketing the county with cell cams.

 

[Harvey_NW]

Bullshit, excited white guys aren’t cutting heads off bulls on oak creek and leaving them.

A guy I know and trust was feeding bulls to get their sheds, had them on camera every day.

One day Aron white foots Toyota drives up there (only truck on camera) and all 3 bulls were killed, heads cut off, and the vast majority of the meat left to lay and rot (2 quarters and a couple straps were taken) this was turned into wdfw and nothing was done.


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Crazy, got any pictures of the elk carcasses?

The guys accidently shooting a non true spike arent cutting the head off and running. You and I both know that.

That's my point, I see tons of posts and pictures every year of spikes or 2 points that get killed and left. But I rarely see pictures of these headless elk carcasses and truck loads of tribal members from the people making accusations. So they have no problem remembering to snap a pic when it's a non-tribal hunting incident, but suddenly it slips their mind when they see a tribal member driving away from a headless elk carcass and a giant bull in the back? I'm not buying it. I'm not defending them, or saying I agree with it either, but I hunt the same areas as them and put on a shit ton more miles than the average Joe boasting these claims on Facebook, and yet I never find what they supposedly do. The majority of the time they're loaded whole.

That jackass got the feed station shut down for shooting the elk in front of the general public spectators.

Now you're just spreading misinformation. https://www.spokesman.com/stories/1996/feb/25/tribal-hunting-sparks-controversy-non-indians/

 

[Timberline001]

Crazy, got any pictures of the elk carcasses?


That's my point, I see tons of posts and pictures every year of spikes or 2 points that get killed and left. But I rarely see pictures of these headless elk carcasses and truck loads of tribal members from the people making accusations. So they have no problem remembering to snap a pic when it's a non-tribal hunting incident, but suddenly it slips their mind when they see a tribal member driving away from a headless elk carcass and a giant bull in the back? I'm not buying it. I'm not defending them, or saying I agree with it either, but I hunt the same areas as them and put on a shit ton more miles than the average Joe boasting these claims on Facebook, and yet I never find what they supposedly do. The majority of the time they're loaded whole.


Now you're just spreading misinformation. https://www.spokesman.com/stories/1996/feb/25/tribal-hunting-sparks-controversy-non-indians/

I witnessed a tribal member kill a deer in may while I was turkey hunting and only remove the back strap and hinds. I was frustrated but I’ve honestly always been under the impression they can do whatever they want so I didn’t call anyone or take pictures. Honestly even now I probably wouldn’t. Tribal police scare the hell out of me. You’d never catch me even speeding through the Rez

 

[naneumranch]

Crazy, got any pictures of the elk carcasses?


That's my point, I see tons of posts and pictures every year of spikes or 2 points that get killed and left. But I rarely see pictures of these headless elk carcasses and truck loads of tribal members from the people making accusations. So they have no problem remembering to snap a pic when it's a non-tribal hunting incident, but suddenly it slips their mind when they see a tribal member driving away from a headless elk carcass and a giant bull in the back? I'm not buying it. I'm not defending them, or saying I agree with it either, but I hunt the same areas as them and put on a shit ton more miles than the average Joe boasting these claims on Facebook, and yet I never find what they supposedly do. The majority of the time they're loaded whole.


Now you're just spreading misinformation. https://www.spokesman.com/stories/1996/feb/25/tribal-hunting-sparks-controversy-non-indians/

If you hunt and cover that much country as you say you would see the carcasses missing heads ,back strap and hinds. Two up reecer last fall and four off of colockum pass. After a while it does no good calling it in because the game department turns a blind eye.


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[MuleyFever]

If the reservation is responsible for as much as you say and the cops wont do anything, then all you guys can do is constantly post what they do to social media and hope they take notice.

 

[Timberline001]

If the reservation is responsible for as much as you say and the cops wont do anything, then all you guys can do is constantly post what they do to social media and hope they take notice.

It’s been the biggest talking point on every Washington forum and page for well over a decade. There’s nothing that can be done about it and the number of bull tags available to the public is direct evidence of that. We’re down the 1/10 of the tags we had a decade ago.

 

[MuleyFever]

It’s been the biggest talking point on every Washington forum and page for well over a decade. There’s nothing that can be done about it and the number of bull tags available to the public is direct evidence of that. We’re down the 1/10 of the tags we had a decade ago.

Sad situation.

 

[Harvey_NW]

If you hunt and cover that much country as you say you would see the carcasses missing heads ,back strap and hinds. Two up reecer last fall and four off of colockum pass. After a while it does no good calling it in because the game department turns a blind eye.


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So you don't have pictures of this? Okay.

The longer this goes, the more my point is solidified. I live 3 parcels off a wildlife area that touches one of the local feeding stations and I can tell you I watch a lot of the hunting activity from my house in my personal time, excluding the time I spend actually scouting, hunting, or shed hunting. The "f*n Indians" argument is, in most cases, laughable, and baseless. I've seen exponentially more cases of accidents from non tribal hunters than I have of tribal members committing what they're accused of. It gets old.

 

[longtail]

It’s exactly what everyone thought it was? I’m happy for the guy, he seems pumped, been chasing a world record for many years it seems. Breakdown:
Some guys send him pictures of the bull, he buys thousands of dollars in raffle tickets to get tag, has entire crews and himself searching and hunting for him on public Sept-Nov, they can’t get it done. Find it on a 40 acre lot, gets permission (kind of), sets up blind over bait pile apples/hay, sits for two days and kills it last evening.
There was a misunderstanding with landowner but got cleared up and other neighbor pissed because he’d been feeding the bull in his backyard and bull was likely living on his property most of time. Called warden, investigation, no charges.

One thing that turned me off is when Cam asked him how he has 3 bulls in the top 5 he answered "Luck" --- Im assuming 2 of those bulls are from high dollar reservations and this last bull theres no way without being wealthy the odds weren't in his favor -- unless i missed it never once was he humble about his financial freedom. I don't know anything about this guy but to me it would seem obvious that he is beyond wealthy. I would of liked to hear just one statement of humility about his financial freedom and maybe something he has done to earn it to put him in the position he is in. Now granted maybe he has earned every dollar he has and gives millions of dollars to others and is the nicest guy in the world.......

 

[Pacific_Fork]

He just wanted to tell the story, he’s been on jay scott a while back.

I know him, good dude in real life.


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Cool! He clearly is dedicated to hunting inches on a score sheet. He achieved his goal, albeit over bait on private. I’ll give him that.

I still can’t believe WA allows baiting elk of all things they do wrong in game management.

 

[thisguy]

 

[Hnthrdr]

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All about wording man… gotta keep this in mind in the future.

 

[TheTone]

Hunter: this why I say off social media.
Same Hunter: My soul is worth selling to get on Cam Hanes podcast.

Yawn, same narcissist, different bull. When’s hunting season for us regular guys again? Can’t come any sooner…

I’d bet mutual sponsors they have said to get this podcast done

They basically both said on the podcast that they didn’t like each other for years

 

[waspocrew]

Legal - yep. Impressive - no.

 

[WRO]

I’d bet mutual sponsors they have said to get this podcast done

They basically both said on the podcast that they didn’t like each other for years

I’ll take that bet..

 

[WRO]

So you don't have pictures of this? Okay.

The longer this goes, the more my point is solidified. I live 3 parcels off a wildlife area that touches one of the local feeding stations and I can tell you I watch a lot of the hunting activity from my house in my personal time, excluding the time I spend actually scouting, hunting, or shed hunting. The "f*n Indians" argument is, in most cases, laughable, and baseless. I've seen exponentially more cases of accidents from non tribal hunters than I have of tribal members committing what they're accused of. It gets old.

I was asked not to post the pictures, by the person who has them.

I used to fish around them all the time in the middle Columbia, the fish wasting isn’t any better.

 

[velvet muley]

To me it is a disgraceful ending to that impressive elk, Stayed alive all his life during the season on public land, not even a gang of "hunters" with trail cameras everywhere and nothing but time could get him killed. Had to do it in a subdivision in his winter ground over apples and hay, while neighbors were feeding him to keep him around to enjoy the wildlife viewing.

Don't understand how people get gratification or a feeling of accomplishment out of that, IMO most true sportsman would only get a sense of guilt.