New Weatherby Cartridge

[Hunter270Win]

I’m not trying to be a boomer here, but what’s the purpose of this cartridge other than to make money?

I genuinely feel like we’ve just about done everything we can with standard brass cartridge design at this point. It’s similar to how phones aren’t making big leaps anymore.

 

[bnewt3]

I’m not trying to be a boomer here, but what’s the purpose of this cartridge other than to make money?

I genuinely feel like we’ve just about done everything we can with standard brass cartridge design at this point. It’s similar to how phones aren’t making big leaps anymore.

There are legitimate advantages and it does fill a gap(even if its a tiny gap). I personally don't think they are worth the tradeoffs but others will. Yay freedom!

The really silly part IMO is that someone will look at the gap on either side of this and say "there's room for something more perfect right there and come up with something to fill that gap. Then someone else will do it again with the next gap, etc, etc, etc, until the differences between a half dozen cartridges cant even be measured anymore.

And so the cartridge world keeps turning.

 

[MuleyFever]

I keep thinking about a 25PRC and now this one would be a contender when someone makes brass. But then I think if I am going to reload I can probably squeeze a decent performance bump from my 25CM with less recoil.

 

[z987k]

3150 with a 117gr bullet. I do that with a 22” 25 Creedmoor. Depending on the temperature I shoot a Berger 115gr Hunter at 3120-3148 fps

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It's rather likely that if you're getting the same performance everything else equal with 20 or so grains less powder, you're wildly over 65kpsi.

 

[Bluefish]

I’m not trying to be a boomer here, but what’s the purpose of this cartridge other than to make money?

I genuinely feel like we’ve just about done everything we can with standard brass cartridge design at this point. It’s similar to how phones aren’t making big leaps anymore.

Imho it’s similar to a fast twist 25-06 or 25 prc. Neither is saami spec. It’s essentially the step between a 6.5 cm and 6.5 prc but in 25 cal.

As many have pointed out before, there really isn’t anything “new” other than faster twists and optimization for heavy/long bullets within existing magazine lengths. If you custom build, you can duplicate the performance with existing cartridges. The advantage of the new cartridges is that they are specified to work from the factory with the long/heavy/high bc bullets that didn’t exist when the classic cartridges were developed.

 

[AZ_Hunter]

Exactly. Thats it, it’s simple.

I see they posted the COAL at 3.30 so tikka factory mags will work. This will just be a barrel for any std bolt face tikka.

 

[Trogon]

284 win cases loaded long fit and feed absolutely perfect from a tikka LA mag. I assume this would as well, which could make a very optimized cartridge for a tikka in the std bolt face, long action config. If more than just weatherby make brass I could be interested

 

[adamantine]

It's rather likely that if you're getting the same performance everything else equal with 20 or so grains less powder, you're wildly over 65kpsi.

The Hornady factory superformance 112gr copper CX load does 3150fps (0.524G1 vs 0.530G1 for Barnes).

Not weighing in on the argument, more just saying that that he accurately pointed that something is up with that copper load velocity.

That aside, that 25CM Hornady load is the single best factory copper load under 7PRC level recoil (and even then it's almost identical distance to 2200fps). Good enough that I'm likely going to rebarrel a 6.5 tikka to the 25CM, free 150+ yards of range (or more importantly with a copper, higher impact velo at any range).

 

[idig4au]

Definitely. Diehard boomers living in the past scared of adaptation and set on being left in the dust

Or not….if it’s not broken then no need to fix it. These new cartridges that have saturated the market are great and provide many options, but the traditional wby cartridges still get the job done just fine.

 

[glock233]

They need better factory bullet options. ELDM or ELDX.

 

[flyboy214]

Weatherby releasing the 25 RPM makes a ton of sense. I bet they have been sitting on this one for a while, waiting for the right market and components to become available. The 25 Creed popularity drove the industry to develop some great new high B.C. bullets. Weatherby is pairing this cartridge with their silly lightweight sheep gun. While a fast quarter bore is not my first choice for an ultralight rifle, the 25 RPM is probably the most practical Weatherby cartridge released in recent times.

Recoil should be slightly more than a 6.5 PRC but less than a 280 AI. It would be manageable in a 6.5 lb gun with a muzzle brake. One thing I can say after some trigger time on the peak 44 stocks is that the recoil pad is pretty awesome. Based on the new high B.C. copper bullets available, 25 RPM should be a solid option for lead-free areas. It will be interesting to see if any other gun companies adopt the cartridge.

Comparing it to 25 Creed will be interesting once people have a chance to chrono both cartridges and check the B.C.s on the new bullets. Hopefully, Hornady is accurate in their velocities this time and doesn’t come up short as they did with the 7 PRC.

 

[MtnHawker]

Was thinking about this again and went to their website to poke around....it's $100/box for factory ammo. Sweet baby Jesus. Bless you reloaders. I feel you're the only people that'll really get to play with this

 

[MuleyFever]

Lots of people out there that somehow get by for a couple of seasons on one box of ammo. Also lots of people out there with more money than sense that also probably happen to be the main market for Wby.

 

[wind gypsy]

I’m not trying to be a boomer here, but what’s the purpose of this cartridge other than to make money?

I genuinely feel like we’ve just about done everything we can with standard brass cartridge design at this point. It’s similar to how phones aren’t making big leaps anymore.

There are a bunch of new desirable heavy for caliber quarter bore bullets and there were zero SAAMI cartridges designed to push them fast. Simple as that.