New Mystery B&T suppressor

[Ultrastealth]

Ok, I was able to get some time in with the Print-X Ranger. I was using it on my new 7mm Backcountry last weekend, and I wasn't terribly impressed with the suppression or the recoil braking. Now, I just needed a light suppressor that I could hunt with without ringing my ears, so it fits that well. I was using it as a direct thread. IMHO, there are better suppressors out there, but very few this light for .30 magnum applications.

 

[USMC14]

I apologize in advance that this is a long post. Im hoping it will help some of you interested in or thinking you're gonna regret your decision if you already purchased the Ranger. I have had my Ranger for a few weeks now, and have had a chance to use it quite a bit. My experience seems to be a bit different than others. I think If you are buying it for its intended purpose it fills the bill extremely well.

I own 15 or so suppressors and all have an intended purpose on a specific rifle but I do swap them around now and then for the heck of it. Every single suppressor I own has pros and cons. Everything is a tradeoff.
If you are buying this suppressor for your one and only do everything can, I would say it's definitely not the best choice.

I bought this specifically as a lightweight hunting suppressor for a 16.25" barreled 7mm Backcountry rifle. for that purpose it has been outstanding. Better reduced recoil than any other can I tried and its hearing safe, weighs 7.5oz with the direct thread mount, increases my velocity over 25fps, tightens up my groups better than any other can I tried, and it only shifts my impact 1/4" high and 3/4" right at 100yds compared to unsuppressed, and that shift is repeatable every single time I remove it and put it back on. Is it the quietest can out there? No, Its not, but it does everything I was expecting it to do. However, it's quiet enough that everyone that shoots next to me wants to know what suppressor it is and says, "dang, that thing is quiet" and that is on a short barreled Magnum rifle with over 80,000psi of chamber pressure.

I shot it on my 6.5 to compare it to my raptor 8 with 3" reflex, and my CAT Johny Law because that was what I had with me. The Ranger isn't quite as quiet as the other 2, which is to be expected, but it honestly wasn't too far behind. It reduced recoil better than the other 2 and it shot the tightest groups as well. and that is saying something because my raptor and Johny law are probably the 2 most accurate suppressors I own.
I guess what Im getting at is that every one of us perceives sound differently, each one of us has likes and dislikes, and I doubt we all would have the same opinion on pretty much anything. For me, The Ranger is exactly what I thought it would be and serves me well on my particular setup. There is always something better out there. If all you are looking for is the quietest suppressor out there, this one isn't it, but suppressors are made to do more than just reduce the decibel level. If you have realistic expectations, I think you will be happy with this can. Just go shoot, have fun, enjoy the freedom of being able to own a suppressor, and don't over analyze everything, because there is always something better out there, and if there isn't, There will be soon.

On another note, I saw someone posted about the finish wearing easily. I will agree with that, but in my opinion, this isn't a knock on the B&T Ranger. I have 5 3D printed cans from various manufacturers, and they are all the exact same. In my experience, the finish wears way more easily on 3D printed cans than a cerakoted can that is steel or Titanium. the slightest rubbing with metal, etc wears it off. I don't know why, but I know every printed can I have is the same way. Not really a big deal. The finish on all my cans gets worn. I just have them re-cerakoted when they get real bad. or put a suppressor cover on them.

Sorry for the long post. not sure if this will help anyone.

 

[6.5x284]

I apologize in advance that this is a long post. Im hoping it will help some of you interested in or thinking you're gonna regret your decision if you already purchased the Ranger. I have had my Ranger for a few weeks now, and have had a chance to use it quite a bit. My experience seems to be a bit different than others. I think If you are buying it for its intended purpose it fills the bill extremely well.

I own 15 or so suppressors and all have an intended purpose on a specific rifle but I do swap them around now and then for the heck of it. Every single suppressor I own has pros and cons. Everything is a tradeoff.
If you are buying this suppressor for your one and only do everything can, I would say it's definitely not the best choice.

I bought this specifically as a lightweight hunting suppressor for a 16.25" barreled 7mm Backcountry rifle. for that purpose it has been outstanding. Better reduced recoil than any other can I tried and its hearing safe, weighs 7.5oz with the direct thread mount, increases my velocity over 25fps, tightens up my groups better than any other can I tried, and it only shifts my impact 1/4" high and 3/4" right at 100yds compared to unsuppressed, and that shift is repeatable every single time I remove it and put it back on. Is it the quietest can out there? No, Its not, but it does everything I was expecting it to do. However, it's quiet enough that everyone that shoots next to me wants to know what suppressor it is and says, "dang, that thing is quiet" and that is on a short barreled Magnum rifle with over 80,000psi of chamber pressure.

I shot it on my 6.5 to compare it to my raptor 8 with 3" reflex, and my CAT Johny Law because that was what I had with me. The Ranger isn't quite as quiet as the other 2, which is to be expected, but it honestly wasn't too far behind. It reduced recoil better than the other 2 and it shot the tightest groups as well. and that is saying something because my raptor and Johny law are probably the 2 most accurate suppressors I own.
I guess what Im getting at is that every one of us perceives sound differently, each one of us has likes and dislikes, and I doubt we all would have the same opinion on pretty much anything. For me, The Ranger is exactly what I thought it would be and serves me well on my particular setup. There is always something better out there. If all you are looking for is the quietest suppressor out there, this one isn't it, but suppressors are made to do more than just reduce the decibel level. If you have realistic expectations, I think you will be happy with this can. Just go shoot, have fun, enjoy the freedom of being able to own a suppressor, and don't over analyze everything, because there is always something better out there, and if there isn't, There will be soon.

On another note, I saw someone posted about the finish wearing easily. I will agree with that, but in my opinion, this isn't a knock on the B&T Ranger. I have 5 3D printed cans from various manufacturers, and they are all the exact same. In my experience, the finish wears way more easily on 3D printed cans than a cerakoted can that is steel or Titanium. the slightest rubbing with metal, etc wears it off. I don't know why, but I know every printed can I have is the same way. Not really a big deal. The finish on all my cans gets worn. I just have them re-cerakoted when they get real bad. or put a suppressor cover on them.

Sorry for the long post. not sure if this will help anyone.

Did it get quieter over time or was it quiet from the get go? Mine is the only can I own of 9 that my ears actually ring when I shoot it so I was curious. Wonder if it would be worth me engaging with the company to look at mine.


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[USMC14]

Did it get quieter over time or was it quiet from the get go? Mine is the only can I own of 9 that my ears actually ring when I shoot it so I was curious. Wonder if it would be worth me engaging with the company to look at mine.


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I feel like it's been about the same from the start. My ears definitely don't ring, but it's possible my hearing isn't as good as yours. it definitely isn't the quietest can I own, but I don't feel like like it's crazy loud.

 

[6.5x284]

I feel like it's been about the same from the start. My ears definitely don't ring, but it's possible my hearing isn't as good as yours. it definitely isn't the quietest can I own, but I don't feel like like it's crazy loud.

I’m gonna put it on a 204 Ruger and see how I like it.


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[USMC14]

I’m gonna put it on a 204 Ruger and see how I like it.


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Let me know what you think. My 6.5 was the smallest caliber Ive had mine on, and I felt it was very acceptable. everyone shooting with me thought it was super quiet. definitely quieter on that compared to my 7mm Backcountry.

 

[tibo]

Well poo. That’s why it’s so loud. Putting brakes on the end of cans, turns “good” suppressors into “loud” suppressors. They have their use, but not where you actually care about suppression.

I do not agree with that. I have an A-tec h2 and a DPT both with brake module that can be fitted instead of the last baffle. With it yes they are slightly louder for the shooter but certainly not loud. Downrange for the animal I bet there is no difference. For both brands/model it help with recoil a lot

 

[HairyScandinavian]

I feel like it's been about the same from the start. My ears definitely don't ring, but it's possible my hearing isn't as good as yours. it definitely isn't the quietest can I own, but I don't feel like like it's crazy loud.

Great write up and thank you for posting that.

Would you say it's the loudest can (of reasonably similar build) that you own?

 

[USMC14]

Great write up and thank you for posting that.

Would you say it's the loudest can (of reasonably similar build) that you own?

No, not at all. I have other cans that sound louder to my ear, all in the 6" length range. when I use my raptor 8 with a 3" reflex or my 8.5" Johny Law, they are definitely quieter, but both are way longer and almost twice the weight. A lot depends on what caliber you are shooting and if its a gas gun or bolt gun. Some suppressors are designed and just work better on certain calibers or with certain bullet velocities.
And Personally I disagree in a sense with the folks that say brakes on a suppressor make them louder. If you just want to look at numbers on paper, then maybe they are a decibel or two louder with them vs without them. However, in real world situations I can't tell enough difference to ever worry about it. with that said, I only use suppressors with brakes on larger Magnum calibers because they cut recoil by an additional 30-40% according to most manufacturers. I find I don't notice enough of a difference on lighter calibers and prefer suppressors with no brakes for those.

 

[Formidilosus]

I do not agree with that. I have an A-tec h2 and a DPT both with brake module that can be fitted instead of the last baffle. With it yes they are slightly louder for the shooter but certainly not loud. Downrange for the animal I bet there is no difference. For both brands/model it help with recoil a lot

Relatively safe bet that I wasn't guessing. Putting brakes on the end of lots of decent cans makes them objectively and noticeably louder than the same can without a brake.

 

[HuntHarder]

Relatively safe bet that I wasn't guessing. Putting brakes on the end of lots of decent cans makes them objectively and noticeably louder than the same can without a brake.

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Any #'s? I too, thought Scythe with brake was better than flat cap. Slightly louder, but a large reduction in recoil.

 

[Formidilosus]

Any #'s? I too, thought Scythe with brake was better than flat cap. Slightly louder, but a large reduction in recoil.

Depends on can and brake. Pretty safe bet of the can is low to mid 130’s at the ear, it’s over 140 with a brake- or really close to.

There is no free lunch. Braked suppressors are good game rifles and large 30cal and 338’s, but they aren’t hearing safe especially in varied terrain that can reflect back at the muzzle.

 

[tibo]

Relatively safe bet that I wasn't guessing. Putting brakes on the end of lots of decent cans makes them objectively and noticeably louder than the same can without a brake.

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Nice! From the testing A-tec has done 1-2db louder on the A-tec h2 with the brake end cap 28-29db reduction average. 3db louder for the DPT.

I own both, yes louder with the brake but in terms of perception I wouldn’t say significantly. They are still noticeably quieter than other suppressors without brake. I can get my hand on a digital sound level meter I will take readings out of curiosity to see if still hearing safe or not.

 

[HighUintas]

Depends on can and brake. Pretty safe bet of the can is low to mid 130’s at the ear, it’s over 140 with a brake- or really close to.

There is no free lunch. Braked suppressors are good game rifles and large 30cal and 338’s, but they aren’t hearing safe especially in varied terrain that can reflect back at the muzzle.

Wow that's a big difference at ear and surprising. It seems most people's reports of using a flat cap on the scythe say it's noticeably quieter, but they didn't indicate it would be that big of a difference.

Did u see that difference with the Omega brake? I saw a picture of one of the UM cans with one on it.

 

[Formidilosus]

Wow that's a big difference at ear and surprising. It seems most people's reports of using a flat cap on the scythe say it's noticeably quieter, but they didn't indicate it would be that big of a difference.

Yes. You instantly know if someone in a line is using a can with a brake.

Did u see that difference with the Omega brake? I saw a picture of one of the UM cans with one on it.

Yes- I believe it took that can from 132dB to 140 or 141dB.

 

[Brontosaurus]

Relatively safe bet that I wasn't guessing. Putting brakes on the end of lots of decent cans makes them objectively and noticeably louder than the same can without a brake.

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If yall need someone to take one of the less than worthy test cans off your hands ️ I got you fam

 

[tibo]

An interesting video on the subject

 

[DunnCoHunter]

An interesting video on the subject

Thanks for sharing. Looks like during testing they had the microphone to the side of the rifle instead of toward the shooters ear? Or am I wrong? The recoil testing with the 300wm at the end was interesting

 

[HuntHarder]

Great video, thanks

I'm planning on db checking my cans at some point soon. I know the recoil is quite a bit less with the break installed on my Scythe. Im curious what my actual #'s are tho.

 

[HighUintas]

Great video, thanks

I'm planning on db checking my cans at some point soon. I know the recoil is quite a bit less with the break installed on my Scythe. Im curious what my actual #'s are tho.

How will you be doing that? The system many reputable mfgs are using is upwards of $40,000