New Leica Bino/Rangfinder combo Geovid HD-B

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Whiskey, I think you are reading it correctly. I don't think the original RF Bino had an angle compensator.
 
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They are slightly heavier than the Swaros... The old Leica Geovids did not have angle compensation, but the new model does if that was the confusion! Leica's field of view smokes the Swaros at 374ft @1000yards compared to the 330ft @ 1000yard swaros. That puts the 10X's close to what an 8x42's field of view is at. Im thinking these could very well be the best thing going out there. Cant wait to check them out!
 
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Shooters with standard turret adjustments can get additional point of impact corrections in “clicks” in either ¼ M.O.A. or mil radian.
 

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They sure look good, and I am in need of a new rangefinder and binos this year.............

At 3k though I think I might be too scared to break them!
 

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Guys,

I am pretty excited about this. It seems to me there might be a little genius at work here.

First, the use of a porro prism design in an integrated rangefinder binocular could be a great choice. Porro prisms are used in classic "dog leg" shaped binoculars and have a couple of major advantages over roof prisms. First they have less reflective surfaces for light to be lost, and the image path never crosses itself. So, by inherent design, a porro prism should be brighter than a roof prism (all other things being equal), because there are less reflective surfaces to lose light. Plus it won't need phase coatings to get a sharp image.

The weakness of porro prisms have always been that they are bulkier, and harder to weatherproof, because they typically focus by moving the eyepieces in and out.

Leica seems to have mitigated these weaknesses by placing the dog leg portion under the binocular (similar to the excellent older Bausch and Lomb Elite porros), and making the binocular internally focussing.

The problem with roof prism rangefinding binoculars is the display screen limits the brightness of the image. However, with Leica starting out ahead with porro prisms, the binoculars might have a quite bright image, even with the display screen.

Old technology brought to new use. Cool.

I really want to see this binocular.
 
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I ordered mine through Bear Basin. I was #3 on the waiting list. They have ten on order and I was told mid Febuary.
 
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$3K is just insane... The more I think of $3k being spent on bino's/range finder, the more I think I'm going to be just fine with an upgraded pair of binos and my current Leica CRF1200. That is a LOT of coin, we'll see if I can't finagle some dealer pricing on them...

Mike
 

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$3K is just insane... The more I think of $3k being spent on bino's/range finder, the more I think I'm going to be just fine with an upgraded pair of binos and my current Leica CRF1200. That is a LOT of coin, we'll see if I can't finagle some dealer pricing on them...

Mike

It's insane...till you starting thinking how awesome it's going to be :)
 

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It does seem insane, but really with a crf 1600 being around 650.00 that leaves 2350.00 in binocular if you will, about the price of a pair of swarovision el's or ultravid hd's. Don't get me wrong, I still threw up in my mouth a little when I saw the price but it was about what I was expecting.
 

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my leupold RX-1000i TBR with DNA i just ordered is going to have to get me by.........these look sweet but never gonna happen for me lol
 

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For long range shooters, this binocular would also replace their ballistic calculator and field weather station (but not wind meter).
 

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May have to sell a kidney, but I am gonna do all I can to pick up a pair of these. Truly a giant leap forward.
 
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Mike,

Look at it as an investment, I could give you a half dozen reasons why I believe a allinone is so far superior to carrying both rangefinder and binos as a bowhunter, let alone rifle hunting/shooting... A lot of money but in my mind Id rather spend the money on a set of fine optics then a high end rifle...
 

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I will reserve judgement until I get some first hand experience with it, but I'm hopeful it's worth every penny.

Everybody has their priorities and prices they're willing to pay for certain things. I can tell you this, this Leica is something I've been waiting for for quite some time now.
 

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I don't see the "need" I'm seeing from many of you. Anything outside of 500 yrds likely doesn't even know your there. Thats more than a quarter mile. You can pull out a rangefinder without a problem. While your at it. Get your spotter set up. Talk with your pard. Lay out some ammo, just in case. Have a snack and let your HR drop some. Your gonna need to be steady when the heat starts flying. Don't forget to build up a nice shooting platform.

If you think animals are close, just range objects and have a feel for what kind of shooting situation you've created.

I'm a hunter. There are plenty of options besides buying the latest and greatest. Most of the time I just hunt with a Spotting Scope and rangefinder leaving the Binos at home anyway.

It looks like an expensive toy.
 
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Mike,

Look at it as an investment, I could give you a half dozen reasons why I believe a allinone is so far superior to carrying both rangefinder and binos as a bowhunter, let alone rifle hunting/shooting... A lot of money but in my mind Id rather spend the money on a set of fine optics then a high end rifle...

Oh I'm not saying they are not worth the money, all I'm saying is that I can't afford them... :)

I currently bring my cell phone which doubles as a camera and ballistic calculator (Don't carry a wind meter, and the terrain we hunt makes them pretty worthless at times). I also have my dope card for the expected temps and pressure taped to my stock out to 1000 yards. I have a rangefinder that'll range out to 13XX yards currently, along with my 10x42 binos and we have a watch capable of barometric pressure readings. Temperature I can estimate within 5 degrees almost all the time.

This is just how I'm justifying me not buying these... :) I will definitely be keeping an eye on these reviews though! I"m sure I can piece together an AR or Custom rifle to sell in order to offset some costs in the future.

Mike
 
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