New KUIU/Remington rifle

[AK Troutbum]

The guy buying that rig is the one paying 10k for a guide to find what he wants to shoot, then shows up to yank the trigger and take a selfie. I just can't wait to see a pic of that rifle with a dead sheep that's not the Kuiutard himself....

I don't know what sheep hunts go for in the lesser 48 but, you find a guided Dall or Stone sheep hunt in AK or Canada for that price, you've found the deal of the century. Or, more likely, you've found some kind of scam.


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[16Bore]

I don't know what sheep hunts go for in the lesser 48 but, you find a guided Dall or Stone sheep hunt in AK or Canada for that price, you've found the deal of the century. Or, more likely, you've found some kind of scam.


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Case and point.

 

[Ndbowhunter]

You can find dall sheep hunts for 10k that aren't a scam.

Probably won't find them with a google search. There's a big world out there that doesn't revolve around the internets and search engines and posts with #goals

 

[SkunkCabbage]

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[Shooter19802003]

I think it's more like $4+k.


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This discussion was less about price vs selling an image, or cashing in on marketing. So again, what's difference in one company selling a brand vs another?

 

[realunlucky]

Not all companies are equal. Maybe you can build all of us a graph of the pros and cons of each.

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[Shooter19802003]

Nobody forces you to buy any product. I can also tell you there are A LOT of people who disagree with you. Last time I checked kuiu stuff sells pretty good. They are obviously doing something right.

 

[colonel00]

This discussion was less about price vs selling an image, or cashing in on marketing. So again, what's difference in one company selling a brand vs another?

It's absolutely about price to me. If KUIU teamed up with Remington and came out with a $2500 rifle, I wouldn't really be taken aback. However, at this price point and features that I don't really feel are better than what you can get from a custom shop for quite a bit less, I just don't see the point or niche for this offering.

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[Shooter19802003]

But see, that is all subjective (your opinion) and you are probably wrong. Do you really think that two companies such as Remington and kuiu would get together and build a rifle if they didn't think it would sell? Two companies that know more about marketing than you and I ever will. Just saying, companies like these don't put forth this much effort if they don't think there is a market. Let's look at this from another direction. I love everything old school safari. You might look at one if my drillings and not think anything of it. However I'm willing to drop close to six figures for one. Same goes for my classic rigbys, Holland and Holland's, Sauers, Merkels and maybe one day a farqueston. Just saying, one man's junk is another's treasure. I find it hard to justify more than $1k for a current production rifle. Heck, I have a cheap savage that shoots 1/2 moa. So why would I spend more to get the same result?

 

[mtnwrunner]

It's absolutely about price to me. If KUIU teamed up with Remington and came out with a $2500 rifle, I wouldn't really be taken aback. However, at this price point and features that I don't really feel are better than what you can get from a custom shop for quite a bit less, I just don't see the point or niche for this offering.

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Not to mention that KUIU's whole marketing model was to eliminate the middle man to keep their prices down. Whatever. I'm not the smartest dude around but 5900 bucks ain't cheap and neither is their other products.
As others have said, if a guy wants one, more power to them. I'll stick to my cheap ol tikka.......

Randy

 

[KurtR]

Ya Remington are marketing genius look what they did with the 6mm and 260 ....... SAC,LRI,GAP and other good Smith's will build a better rifle for that price. Just starting with not using the Remington action that has to be tuned up to start with. It's amazing going to comps and watching guys who shoot hundreds if not thousands of rounds a month that can't hold a 1/2 moa group but they are not sitting at a bench using a lead sled so maybe that's why.

 

[Shooter19802003]

I'm not disagreeing that there are better rifles for the price. Again, imo, why would somebody these days spend more than $600 on a rifle? In the field, a savage axis is going to shoot the same as a custom job at a portion of the price. I don't understand short bed pickups or mini trucks. I have no clue how they sell as many as they do. They get crap fuel mileage and you can't put truck stuff in the back. Hard to fit 8ft lumber in 4.5 foot if bed.....i don't get it. Why not just buy a car with the same result? However, for whatever reason folks drop a LOT of coin on trucks that can't do truck crap. So what do we know?

 

[HuntHarder]

If this was Kifaru, chances are this would not be a hot topic. Go look at prices on many high end rifles. They are in the ballpark. Proof research lightweight rifles are 6500$ and up. Hillcountry rifles are 4k-7k$ Jarrett rifles start at 8k$. Gunwerks carbon starts at 6500$. Do I think there are less expensive rifles that will achieve the same results? Yes, but that does not mean these rifles are not worth what they are asking for them.

 

[EastMT]

Does no one remember the kifaru rambling rifle for $6000? Custom model 7 with removable barrels in 260, 308, 358. Where are the Kifaru fanboy hate mail snowflake meltdown threads?

 

[KurtR]

I'm not disagreeing that there are better rifles for the price. Again, imo, why would somebody these days spend more than $600 on a rifle? In the field, a savage axis is going to shoot the same as a custom job at a portion of the price. I don't understand short bed pickups or mini trucks. I have no clue how they sell as many as they do. They get crap fuel mileage and you can't put truck stuff in the back. Hard to fit 8ft lumber in 4.5 foot if bed.....i don't get it. Why not just buy a car with the same result? However, for whatever reason folks drop a LOT of coin on trucks that can't do truck crap. So what do we know?

A Savage axis won't shoot like a custom rifle.

 

[AK Troutbum]

You can find dall sheep hunts for 10k that aren't a scam.

Where?



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[Shooter19802003]

A Savage axis won't shoot like a custom rifle.

Yeap...i stand by that. Like I said if you read it.....in the field. Off the bench the custom will out shoot it, but who cares. I don't shoot off a bench in the field. So, off hand... The savage(Which is moa or better) shoots the same as the custom. Because in field positions.....sub moa vs moa doesn't matter. Your skills do and that vast majority of people don't posses the skills to discern the difference in the field.

 

[ckleeves]

Yeap...i stand by that. Like I said if you read it.....in the field. Off the bench the custom will out shoot it, but who cares. I don't shoot off a bench in the field. So, off hand... The savage(Which is moa or better) shoots the same as the custom. Because in field positions.....sub moa vs moa doesn't matter. Your skills do and that vast majority of people don't posses the skills to discern the difference in the field.

I try to never shoot off hand in the field. Ever. Haven't seen many situations where it's needed unless it's a close jumped animal. There's usually a rest within 10' and if there isn't that's why we have bipods or sticks.

 

[KurtR]

Yeap...i stand by that. Like I said if you read it.....in the field. Off the bench the custom will out shoot it, but who cares. I don't shoot off a bench in the field. So, off hand... The savage(Which is moa or better) shoots the same as the custom. Because in field positions.....sub moa vs moa doesn't matter. Your skills do and that vast majority of people don't posses the skills to discern the difference in the field.

If that was the case people would use them in prs comp where it is all field positions. A Savage axis will not shoot consistently with a custom from the field bench or out a window that's a fact.

 

[orionthehunter1]

Don't know about the axis, but I have a 16 lightweight hunter in 6.5 creedmoor that outshot a bunch of custom rifles last weekend at a shoot.