New Guy here. Considering straightwall wildcat.

[rookieforever33]

It can also be odd with what they consider “shoulder” at the taper to neck junction.

I was going to mess around with a 44-40 and some places seemed to indicate it was considered not straight wall.

Then others like a 32-40 are considered straight wall.

In the end I went with something that was clearly allowed and met the max length of all straight wall states. I chose 45 Raptor which is way overkill, but was a fun project.

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I would not consider that chart accurate. A few of those look over the max case length. Others are below the 35 caliber minimum.

 

[207North]

I would not consider that chart accurate. A few of those look over the max case length. Others are below the 35 caliber minimum.

Some things on it make zero sense.

 

[rookieforever33]

Not the only things in Illinois that dont make sense.

 

[Q_Sertorius]

Would a handloaded 9.3x72R work? Would it have enough case capacity? Looks like it has a .366 bullet and a case length of 2.83 inches.

The basic 9.3x72R has a .364 193-grain bullet that isn’t super impressive. But I fully expect that it could be loaded up a lot in a more modern action with good steel. And having one built in .366 bore would provide far better bullet options.

 

[z987k]

Would a handloaded 9.3x72R work? Would it have enough case capacity? Looks like it has a .366 bullet and a case length of 2.83 inches.

With the right bullet and powder, yes. Again, in a modern action that can take loading it to modern pressure.
It looks like you have a couple options in .366 from Nosler with a BC over .4 at 250gr. The Accubond, and BT would both work. The Barnes 250TTSX would also get you there. In a 20+ inch barrel with LT-30 for a powder, gets you 1800fps at 400y.

 

[keystone112]

If recoil is a concern, I’m not sure you’re getting much beyond 250 yards without increasing your felt recoil.

I love the 444 Marlin in Ohio. I’m getting 2325 fps with a 265 grain bullet out of a 22” barrel. It’s an 8.5 lb rifle. I don’t love the recoil, but it’s not a problem hunting. I have reduced hand loads for practice.

It is a hammer. Haven’t tried it beyond 200 yards but I think it would get it done just fine.

 

[Chris in TN]

To get to 400 yards and still have the velocity for bullet upset you're going to need a BC probably above .25, .3+ would be better. There are no bullets in .400 that I know of that have that.

https://www.furycustombullets.com/shop-2/smokeless-muzzle-loader-bullets/402-star-tip-2p/

I haven't shot the 250 or 275 version of this bullet but when I shot the 225 grain version I ended up with a BC in the .275 to .28 range. The 275 grain should easily make .34 to .35 G1 BC. He advertises .36 but I think .34 is a more reasonable figure.

 

[Chris in TN]

With the right bullet and powder, yes. Again, in a modern action that can take loading it to modern pressure.
It looks like you have a couple options in .366 from Nosler with a BC over .4 at 250gr. The Accubond, and BT would both work. The Barnes 250TTSX would also get you there. In a 20+ inch barrel with LT-30 for a powder, gets you 1800fps at 400y.

I wouldn't trust a Barnes TTSX of any size to expand, at all, at 1800'. I know a lot of people love them but there's too many stories out there of them penciling.

 

[1 Gunnut]

With the right bullet and powder, yes. Again, in a modern action that can take loading it to modern pressure.
It looks like you have a couple options in .366 from Nosler with a BC over .4 at 250gr. The Accubond, and BT would both work. The Barnes 250TTSX would also get you there. In a 20+ inch barrel with LT-30 for a powder, gets you 1800fps at 400y.

What twist rate would you need?

 

[wesfromky]

Should get you to at least 300ish without crazy recoil. You might also look at using the hv bullet for your wildcat round.

400 Legend Ammo 165 Grain HV

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[z987k]

I wouldn't trust a Barnes TTSX of any size to expand, at all, at 1800'. I know a lot of people love them but there's too many stories out there of them penciling.

I agree on that. Monos really should be over 2000, but people claim 1800. For his purposes the 2 nosler bullets are much more ideal unless he doesn't like hunting with lead.
It looks like hawk has a 225 and a 250gr 9.3mm that would get him out to 400 as well.

 

[z987k]

What twist rate would you need?

The Barnes will need the fastest twist, because it's the longest. On a standard day(0ft, 59F), it looks like 1 in 16 would be the slowest twist you could go with.
The Nosler BT would need the least twist, a 1:18.5 is stable.