New Full Curl Field Guide for Dall Sheep

[wantj43]

ADF&G has developed a new booklet to help hunters identify legal Dall sheep in Alaska.
Joe
Dall Sheep Hunting Additional Information, Alaska Department of Fish and Game

 

[adventure907]

Thanks for posting. Good to see Fish and Game making a quality effort in educating Alaska hunters to the nuances of judging dall sheep.

 

[AlaskaEd]

That's much better than their guidance in the past. Good on them for producing quality material for the beginning Sheep hunter.

 

[colonel00]

Interesting info. I can only hope that one day I have the chance to sit and glass sheep looking for a legal ram. By no means am I saying its easy or I can do it myself but if I have to pay $30K plus for some guide to tell me to shoot a ram (even though if he messes up it still is on me since I'm pulling the trigger) you'd hope it would be cut and dry just like for that 1st time resident hunter that just got his residency (jealous). That said, I've tried to learn enough that I fully understand how difficult it truly is to judge a full curl.

Anyway, I do agree that it's nice to see some info being distributed. I just think they've always been hesitant because once it's in writing, it's the "gospel" versus a potentially lenient interpretation.

 

[Jimss]

Nice job and good to have additional info!

 

[VernAK]

A much needed booklet.....almost as good as talking to Joe in person!

 

[wantj43]

A much needed booklet.....almost as good as talking to Joe in person!

Thank you. Lots of people worked on the book.
The booklet is at the printer's and should be in some of the ADF&G offices later in the week. The booklet is being printed on high quality paper and will fit in a pocket.
Good luck this fall.
Joe

 

[oenanthe]

Joe: Thanks for your efforts on this! The booklet has a lot of good information and will be useful for a lot of people.

P.S. Am I the only one who's amused that Joe shows up as a "Junior Member"? It's just based on post count, I know, but maybe something like "Oracle" would be more appropriate. Mods?

 

[VernAK]

Joe: Thanks for your efforts on this! The booklet has a lot of good information and will be useful for a lot of people.

P.S. Am I the only one who's amused that Joe shows up as a "Junior Member"? It's just based on post count, I know, but maybe something like "Oracle" would be more appropriate. Mods?

AGREED!........A wealth of hunting knowledge and experience in Joe.

 

[Bambistew]

Good stuff.

I have a question on the picture on page 20. Isn't the 2nd ring missing? Seems like an awful lot of horn growth from a lamb tip to the first marked annuls. I realize this image is to depict false annuli, but the demarcation has me confused.

 

[kad11]

Would anyone be willing to ship one of these to MT when they become available? I'd be happy to pay for postage.

 

[wantj43]

Would anyone be willing to ship one of these to MT when they become available? I'd be happy to pay for postage.

If you call the ADF&G office Fairbanks they may be able to mail a copy.
Joe

 

[Matt W.]

Good stuff!

 

[wantj43]

Good stuff!

The book is now avaible in the ADF&G office in Fairbanks.
Good luck this fall.
Joe

 

[kad11]

If you call the ADF&G office Fairbanks they may be able to mail a copy.
Joe

Good idea. I emailed the office today so hopefully they'll be able to ship them out. The PDF version is outstanding and clears up a lot of the questions I had about legality.

Thanks for your work on this Joe!

 

[oenanthe]

Good stuff.

I have a question on the picture on page 20. Isn't the 2nd ring missing? Seems like an awful lot of horn growth from a lamb tip to the first marked annuls. I realize this image is to depict false annuli, but the demarcation has me confused.

I agree with you - this one is a bit of a headscratcher.

 

[Stid2677]

ADF&G has developed a new booklet to help hunters identify legal Dall sheep in Alaska.
Joe
Dall Sheep Hunting Additional Information, Alaska Department of Fish and Game

Thanks for all the work you put into this Mr Joe.

 

[wantj43]

Good stuff.

I have a question on the picture on page 20. Isn't the 2nd ring missing? Seems like an awful lot of horn growth from a lamb tip to the first marked annuls. I realize this image is to depict false annuli, but the demarcation has me confused.

Certainly a fair question.
Usually at the "18 month" groove there will be small ridges on each side of the groove on the frontal (butting) surface of the horn and the outer surface will have an oval shape. The "30 month" groove is usually the first groove that Saint Venant's curve is developed; the horn takes on a triangular appearance and on the inner surface of the frontal surface develops a ridge (obviously not visible in the example on page 20).
I can post some examples if you think they would help.
Thank you for the question.
Joe

 

[adventure907]

Certainly a fair question.
Usually at the "18 month" groove there will be small ridges on each side of the groove on the frontal (butting) surface of the horn and the outer surface will have an oval shape. The "30 month" groove is usually the first groove that Saint Venant's curve is developed; the horn takes on a triangular appearance and on the inner surface of the frontal surface develops a ridge (obviously not visible in the example on page 20).
I can post some examples if you think they would help.
Thank you for the question.
Joe

Joe, I speak for myself when I say I would love to see some examples. I think it would help us all become better at judging sheep and understanding the nuances of sheep horn growth.

 

[wantj43]

30 month groove

l have attempted to attach a pdf illustration the description of the 30 month ring. This horn was cut in half so the age at the grooves was confirmed.
Hope this helps.
Joe.
If the attachment does not come through I will try again tomorrow.