New developments coming this summer

[doverpack12]

My puffy arrived today.

OV again nicely done. 3 for 3 in terms of fit and I’m not an easy person to fit.
If anything I could have downsized to a L tall instead of standard XL. Mid layer is an XL and fits well. I have room for another layer or jacket between the two which isn’t a bad thing at all.

No outside use yet and I’m skeptical there is 7.5 oz of down fill based on the loft but will reserve judgement there when it has a chance to expand and in real use outside.

 

[2Stamp]

My puffy arrived today and I'm leaving for my CO 3rd rifle this afternoon. So along with the puffy I'll be further using the pants and mid layer (which I've been using since Sept). Should have some solid thoughts after.

 

[philcox]

This is the major downside of these. Not been through hardly anything rough. Don’t think these are going to be a long term solution.

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[Fever Buck]

For folks that ordered the puffy, how does it compare to an SG Grumman, Kuiu Super Down, and FL Chamberlain? I have all 3 and am curious where this guy would fall in that lineup.

 

[IDHUNTER]

For folks that ordered the puffy, how does it compare to an SG Grumman, Kuiu Super Down, and FL Chamberlain? I have all 3 and am curious where this guy would fall in that lineup.

I posted my initial reaction vs the Kuiu super down a few posts back. Haven't tested it in cold or windy conditions but with less stitching and more down I would expect it to perform better. Time will tell.

 

[Fever Buck]

I posted my initial reaction vs the Kuiu super down a few posts back. Haven't tested it in cold or windy conditions but with less stitching and more down I would expect it to perform better. Time will tell.

Thanks. Is it about the same packable size?

 

[IDHUNTER]

Thanks. Is it about the same packable size?

Yes, I'd say so.

 

[V2Pnutrition]

For folks that ordered the puffy, how does it compare to an SG Grumman, Kuiu Super Down, and FL Chamberlain? I have all 3 and am curious where this guy would fall in that lineup.

I'd say it compares about like apples, oranges, and bananas. They're all fruit, but quite a bit different in their own right.

The face fabric on the OV seems far more durable and substantial than the Gruman with more fill (+2 oz, I believe?). They're both 15D, but the OV (or similar brands using the same face fabric) seems far less prone to tears. Full disclosure: I do not own a Gruman. This is based on friends who do and have multiple patches on it.

You may be getting close with the Super Down @ 14.8 ounces with 5 ounces of 850 fill (vs the OV @ 15.2 and 7.1 oz of 850 fill), but like @IDHUNTER mentioned; more fill + zero stiching should make it warmer.

For comparison:
- Gruman is 11.8 ounces with 5.X oz of fill and a seemingly fragile 15D face.
- Super Down is 14.8 with 5.X oz of fill and a 30D face
- OV is 15.2 with 7.1 oz of fill and a "tougher" 15D face (I haven't 'busted' brush, but I have walked through it, pulled it in and out of the pack on backcountry trips, glass on rocks, slept, etc.- without issue).

The only other down jacket I've liked as much is the Katabatic Tin Cup and it's still "only" at 5 and some change on the fill power. It has that same "durable" face fabric/non-sheen look at 20D.

It's WAY less bulky/heavy/everything than the Chamberlin.

Hopefully that helps give you a decent run down to make some decisions on!