New cook stove on the market

[Chris Neville]

@Primal-Understanding Yes, they will ship when we get our first round of inventory. We will send you an email to get all your shipping info.

We do have to go through and verify each email first. Unfortunately, we have been getting a lot of spam and duplicate emails with different names.

 

[Wprinkle]

My only real issue with this roughridge stove is the lid made of plastic and silicone. I think the pot itself would survive a campfire, but the lid would absolutely burn up.

I use a toaks 750ml nested in a toaks 1100ml. The 750 holds a small fuel canister and a soto windmaster and mini bic. I don't care much for the 750's lid because it doesn't seal tight, but the 1100 converts into a small pan and seals inside the pot lip and creates a tight seal. The lid creating a tight seal is a huge factor with fast boils and minimizing evaporation. I keep it in a waterproof bucket container I took off a GSI Halulite Microdualist. I wish they sold those separate, because it's extremely useful as a sink or hauling around dirty water.

I usually carry a really small titanium firebox around 3oz. I try to use wood fire whenever possible so it's usually worth the weight outside of day hunts or back at camp.

The system as a whole is around 1lb + firebox, but totally worth the weight. I can pull out just the 750ml and tie it in a bandana if I need to drop weight. Versatility and durability is super important to me. Maybe something to consider for future iterations.

I chunk all the plastic/ silicone lids and use a pie pan cut to form a lid that can be sealed.. lighter, fire "proof" and reusable.

 

[schwaf]

I chunk all the plastic/ silicone lids and use a pie pan cut to form a lid that can be sealed.. lighter, fire "proof" and reusable.

Got a photo? I'd love to see it.

 

[2Stamp]

I had a chance to check these out at the Expo last weekend and was impressed with what they are building. The ignitor jumped out to me as being robust, securely tucked into the body of the stove, and easy to manipulate. My current stove has an "ok" ignitor and this one seems nicer.

I also like that the wind screen is removable. When I'm using a hot tent setup in late season I will melt snow with my stove pot on the tent stove to save fuel. The built-in wind screen creates an air gap and slows down the process. Removing it would help the process immensely by increasing surface contact.

I stopped by to see it firsthand also. I was impressed enough to pre-order.

I like the ability to take the screen off, and partly for the ability to set on the side of a fire. I like your thoughts on the ability to put it on a hot tent stove. With the built in fuel regulator it will be interesting to see how much longer a canister lasts.

I liked the igniter and the ability to turn the flame down to more of a simmer. The couple of Jetboils I've owned the ignitors always broke fairly quickly. The MSR Windburner I currenty use, IMO, is a better product than Jetboil, and I have to use a Bic to light it.

It's a small thing, but the water marks for measuring are bold and very easy for my eyes to see. I like how tight the lid fits. We'll see if that lasts with long use.

The Windburner is anywhere from $189-199. So it's $50 more for a lighter setup (5oz lighter than the MSR), a little more flexibility in using the pot, and it looks like a more efficient stove. And the Neville's are passionate hunters. Chris spent longer than he needed talking with me.

 

[Wprinkle]

Got a photo? I'd love to see it.

Ya ill send one tonight but don't overthink it. Use it like tinfoil on a dish but its infinitely more durable/ thicker.

 

[BRTreedogs]

The Soto Windmaster is very fuel efficient, but is still useless without fuel.

Have you ever used a jet boil?
I bought a Soto windmaster and returned it after one trip because it easily used twice as much fuel per boil as my jet boils do.

 

[35WhelenAI]

Have you ever used a jet boil?
I bought a Soto windmaster and returned it after one trip because it easily used twice as much fuel per boil as my jet boils do.

Curious if you used a heat exchanger pot with the Windmaster?

As well, which jetboil stove? Some of them are less than half the rated output as a windmaster, and running them both wide open would show a disparity.

 

[BRTreedogs]

Curious if you used a heat exchanger pot with the Windmaster?

As well, which jetboil stove? Some of them are less than half the rated output as a windmaster, and running them both wide open would show a disparity.

I think it was a toaks 650 so no HE

The regular jet boil w ignitior I think there called the flash.


I’m the perfect customer for a “kit”

It’s a stove to boil water.

I’m not going to great extent on research, waiting for things to come in stock.

And I’m definitely not making any wind guards or cutting any pots.

 

[schwaf]

Have you ever used a jet boil?
I bought a Soto windmaster and returned it after one trip because it easily used twice as much fuel per boil as my jet boils do.

I've used a buddy's jetboil, but not extensively enough to give hard data. I do think that the jetboil is more efficient at boiling water than most stoves, but there are a lot of variables. Heat exchange, wind, fuel output, which model (some jetboils do not have a regulator), koozy, container, altitude, ambient temp, ect.

The thing about jetboils that make them good are that they are an integrated system, so they'll basically get optimal performance out of the box. A jetboils formula is basically integrated burner + wind blocker + heat exchange + koozy + tight lid.

With my windmaster, I try to boil using my 1100 with a pot lid that seals better and has a wider base. The difference between boiling the same amount of water in the 1100 vs 750 is noticeable. I also use a reflective koozy that I made and put it on top while I boil water, which seems to help a lot.

The heat exchange makes a lot of sense, and I think that is a significant contribution to a "jetboils" efficiency. For me personally, not worth it for the volume I would give up and how well my system works together. I actually do use the full volume of both my pots if I'm eating more than freeze dried meals. Often I'll cook enough food for multiple meals and eat left overs. I can easily make 2 big/3 small meals in a 1100 pot and eat it throughout the day. I keep it stored in the 1100 pot, and still have the 750 to boil water throughout the day.

I realize I give up some fuel efficiency with my system in comparison, but the versatility more than makes up for it in my use. The fact that I can use an open fire with my system more than makes up for any efficiency loss with a stove, and the windmaster is plenty capable as a stand alone that I can use for pans/skillets/large pots without extra accessories.

I'm curious what the die hard, stove only guys do when they run out of fuel? Hike back to the truck? Drive to the store? Don't eat?

 

[BRTreedogs]

@schwaf after some more reading I seen you refer to yourself as a bush crafter.
you and I will be polar opposite in how we view, gear, the backcountry etc

We just have completely different goals.

But if my burner failed I’d take the cover off my pot, ruin it in a fire trying to get water boiled, and or just re distribute my non cooking food out into the amount of days I was planning to stay.
And if all that fails I’ll go to town, shower , eat a bacon cheeseburger. Grab my backup stove and try again.

 

[schwaf]

@schwaf after some more reading I seen you refer to yourself as a bush crafter.
you and I will be polar opposite in how we view, gear, the backcountry etc

We just have completely different goals.

That's probably true. I find myself in the minority opinion on a lot of gear philosophy around here, but I also think that hardcore traditional bushcrafters can be silly too. I think that being in the wilderness is no joke, and a casual trip can quickly turn into a survival situation. I've been underprepared, lost in the woods, broken or lost gear, filters clog, batteries die/run out of fuel, through hiked routes that going back to the truck was not an option, stayed in the back country for several weeks, and whatnot. I'm also on solo trips more often than not, so if SHTF, I really need to be prepared with what I've got. Every trip is a learning experience, and I find myself not minding some extra weight if it gives me more capability and redundancy. I think traditional skills are very important, particularly shelter and fire craft, just in case I lose my gear and need to improvise. Hunting is just another skill as far as I'm concerned with the big picture.

I'm aware that I'm in an extreme minority around here that I'll carry a full size leatherman, saw, 5" survival/bushcraft knife in my pack for every trip even if I have no plans to make fire. I also carry a 4" fixed blade knife on my belt instead of a folding pocket knife as my main blade. Everything is capable of dressing game, making fire, shelter, food, defense, ect. and durable enough to take abuse. I don't expect anyone else to do the same, but everyone who has ever camped with me appreciates the skills and capability I bring with me. I can readily drop weight without severe compromise if necessary, but I think the importance of redundancy is overlooked. 2 is 1, 1 is none.

 

[BBob]

I'm curious what the die hard, stove only guys do when they run out of fuel? Hike back to the truck? Drive to the store? Don't eat?

Um, pretty simple. Don’t run out of fuel. Test your gear in the field so you know what it’ll do, plan accordingly and you won’t have issues like running out of fuel. For that matter why couldn’t I prop my heat exchanger pot over some coals to warm up water if I wanted? Silly argument.