New cook stove on the market

My only real issue with this roughridge stove is the lid made of plastic and silicone. I think the pot itself would survive a campfire, but the lid would absolutely burn up.

I use a toaks 750ml nested in a toaks 1100ml. The 750 holds a small fuel canister and a soto windmaster and mini bic. I don't care much for the 750's lid because it doesn't seal tight, but the 1100 converts into a small pan and seals inside the pot lip and creates a tight seal. The lid creating a tight seal is a huge factor with fast boils and minimizing evaporation. I keep it in a waterproof bucket container I took off a GSI Halulite Microdualist. I wish they sold those separate, because it's extremely useful as a sink or hauling around dirty water.

I usually carry a really small titanium firebox around 3oz. I try to use wood fire whenever possible so it's usually worth the weight outside of day hunts or back at camp.

The system as a whole is around 1lb + firebox, but totally worth the weight. I can pull out just the 750ml and tie it in a bandana if I need to drop weight. Versatility and durability is super important to me. Maybe something to consider for future iterations.
I chunk all the plastic/ silicone lids and use a pie pan cut to form a lid that can be sealed.. lighter, fire "proof" and reusable.
 
I had a chance to check these out at the Expo last weekend and was impressed with what they are building. The ignitor jumped out to me as being robust, securely tucked into the body of the stove, and easy to manipulate. My current stove has an "ok" ignitor and this one seems nicer.

I also like that the wind screen is removable. When I'm using a hot tent setup in late season I will melt snow with my stove pot on the tent stove to save fuel. The built-in wind screen creates an air gap and slows down the process. Removing it would help the process immensely by increasing surface contact.
I stopped by to see it firsthand also. I was impressed enough to pre-order.

I like the ability to take the screen off, and partly for the ability to set on the side of a fire. I like your thoughts on the ability to put it on a hot tent stove. With the built in fuel regulator it will be interesting to see how much longer a canister lasts.

I liked the igniter and the ability to turn the flame down to more of a simmer. The couple of Jetboils I've owned the ignitors always broke fairly quickly. The MSR Windburner I currenty use, IMO, is a better product than Jetboil, and I have to use a Bic to light it.

It's a small thing, but the water marks for measuring are bold and very easy for my eyes to see. I like how tight the lid fits. We'll see if that lasts with long use.

The Windburner is anywhere from $189-199. So it's $50 more for a lighter setup (5oz lighter than the MSR), a little more flexibility in using the pot, and it looks like a more efficient stove. And the Neville's are passionate hunters. Chris spent longer than he needed talking with me.
 
Have you ever used a jet boil?
I bought a Soto windmaster and returned it after one trip because it easily used twice as much fuel per boil as my jet boils do.
Curious if you used a heat exchanger pot with the Windmaster?

As well, which jetboil stove? Some of them are less than half the rated output as a windmaster, and running them both wide open would show a disparity.
 
Curious if you used a heat exchanger pot with the Windmaster?

As well, which jetboil stove? Some of them are less than half the rated output as a windmaster, and running them both wide open would show a disparity.

I think it was a toaks 650 so no HE

The regular jet boil w ignitior I think there called the flash.


I’m the perfect customer for a “kit”

It’s a stove to boil water.

I’m not going to great extent on research, waiting for things to come in stock.

And I’m definitely not making any wind guards or cutting any pots.
 
Have you ever used a jet boil?
I bought a Soto windmaster and returned it after one trip because it easily used twice as much fuel per boil as my jet boils do.
I've used a buddy's jetboil, but not extensively enough to give hard data. I do think that the jetboil is more efficient at boiling water than most stoves, but there are a lot of variables. Heat exchange, wind, fuel output, which model (some jetboils do not have a regulator), koozy, container, altitude, ambient temp, ect.

The thing about jetboils that make them good are that they are an integrated system, so they'll basically get optimal performance out of the box. A jetboils formula is basically integrated burner + wind blocker + heat exchange + koozy + tight lid.

With my windmaster, I try to boil using my 1100 with a pot lid that seals better and has a wider base. The difference between boiling the same amount of water in the 1100 vs 750 is noticeable. I also use a reflective koozy that I made and put it on top while I boil water, which seems to help a lot.

The heat exchange makes a lot of sense, and I think that is a significant contribution to a "jetboils" efficiency. For me personally, not worth it for the volume I would give up and how well my system works together. I actually do use the full volume of both my pots if I'm eating more than freeze dried meals. Often I'll cook enough food for multiple meals and eat left overs. I can easily make 2 big/3 small meals in a 1100 pot and eat it throughout the day. I keep it stored in the 1100 pot, and still have the 750 to boil water throughout the day.

I realize I give up some fuel efficiency with my system in comparison, but the versatility more than makes up for it in my use. The fact that I can use an open fire with my system more than makes up for any efficiency loss with a stove, and the windmaster is plenty capable as a stand alone that I can use for pans/skillets/large pots without extra accessories.

I'm curious what the die hard, stove only guys do when they run out of fuel? Hike back to the truck? Drive to the store? Don't eat?
 
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