New Argali 3P Tent? Help Me Design it.

[jmh9801]

These won't be available until next year. We're still working out the design kinks.

Yes I read that in comments. Im gonna buy the Absaroka. Was curious if there was gonna be father's day sale before purchasing it!

 

[Brad@Argali]

Yes I read that in comments. Im gonna buy the Absaroka. Was curious if there was gonna be father's day sale before purchasing it!

No we don't do any sales except for black friday, and even then it's pretty limited. We're about to sell out of 4P tents just as a heads up (likely in the next few days), but we'll have more in stock by the end of June.

 

[Luked]

Personally think something with a removable stove jack like the Rincon would be perfect.
I like the idea of having a 3 person tent or a 2 person with room for gear that has a stove.
I am probably different than a lot here as I camp at the truck a lot. But still don't want to take something as big as a wall tent because if I want to move areas or units its a quick easy tear down and then move.

If its made to be lightweight even though its a 3P its a bonus.
I like the idea of a single door also.

 

[jmh9801]

No we don't do any sales except for black friday, and even then it's pretty limited. We're about to sell out of 4P tents just as a heads up (likely in the next few days), but we'll have more in stock by the end of June.

You were right already gone. Went to purchase few hours ago and sold out!

 

[crowlja]

I have your 4P shelter (which I'm need to ask you another question on) and I do really like it! I do not own a stove but I did rent a stove for 3rd Season CO this past year and I liked having that option!

For myself personally, my wife will not sleep in a floorless shelter nor does she really go out with me in the colder months or when I'm scouting very often.

When I was shopping and researching shelters prior to getting your 4P shelter (that I can't spell without looking it up) the stove jack was a big factor for me as I am willing to hunt all seasons, and having the option is great for versatility. I was highly debating between the 2p and 4p shelter as 90% of the times I am solo, I did think that if I did have a hunting partner that the 2p shelter with stove would be too tight.

This said, depending on the design and use case, I don't believe all shelters need to have a stove jack.

Now that I do have a shelter that I could use as a hot tent, if I were in the market for another shelter at this time, I'd probably actually prefer to have 2 doors over a stove jack for a smaller shelter.

If I did not already own the other tent my option might differ.

Also, I think a shelter smaller than a 4P would be tight to run with 2 men and a stove.

 

[Brad@Argali]

I have your 4P shelter (which I'm need to ask you another question on) and I do really like it! I do not own a stove but I did rent a stove for 3rd Season CO this past year and I liked having that option!

For myself personally, my wife will not sleep in a floorless shelter nor does she really go out with me in the colder months or when I'm scouting very often.

When I was shopping and researching shelters prior to getting your 4P shelter (that I can't spell without looking it up) the stove jack was a big factor for me as I am willing to hunt all seasons, and having the option is great for versatility. I was highly debating between the 2p and 4p shelter as 90% of the times I am solo, I did think that if I did have a hunting partner that the 2p shelter with stove would be too tight.

This said, depending on the design and use case, I don't believe all shelters need to have a stove jack.

Now that I do have a shelter that I could use as a hot tent, if I were in the market for another shelter at this time, I'd probably actually prefer to have 2 doors over a stove jack for a smaller shelter.

If I did not already own the other tent my option might differ.

Also, I think a shelter smaller than a 4P would be tight to run with 2 men and a stove.

I appreciate that feedback. The use case for this tent is that it would be a snug but doable two person plus stove setup. It would have a little less room than our Absaroka 4P, but each person could still have their own insert/sleeping area with a stove and gear.

The other important way this tent functions is that each person would have their own, separate sleeping quarters.

 

[sneaky]

Not sure if this feedback is what you're looking for. But I would really love a bomb-proof, backpackable free-standing tent with a bathtub floor and a stove jack. Maybe something like a Hilleberg Tarra with a stove jack in one of the vestibules.

There are a lot of tipi-type hot tents, and they're all sorta getting to look the same. I have a Kifaru and a Seek Outside tent (sorry--no Argali tents yet) My problem with those is that they blow over or leak water under the sides in really severe weather conditions.

I'd love a more stable and weather-proof (and yes--I know heavier) tent with a stove jack.

Like a Nortent Vern 2 or 3? In case you hadn't seen those.

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[HilltopHitman]

I’m a owner of the absaroka… I feel like it might be a pointless design in a 3p.. Guys are either going solo with the Rincon in Dyneema counting ounces or they are packing the absaroka for two guys with the stove. I mean what’s the weight differences between a 3p and 4p? A few ounces? You guys have great designs and are dominating the teepee market. I just feel it’s not enough difference to generate the revenue for manufacturing

 

[blacktailcentral]

Brad love your tipis and tarps, i would love a floor insert without mesh is this something you guys would think about producing?

 

[Brad@Argali]

Brad love your tipis and tarps, i would love a floor insert without mesh is this something you guys would think about producing?

We have half floors for all of our tents (no mesh). Is that what you are asking about?

 

[Brad@Argali]

I’m a owner of the absaroka… I feel like it might be a pointless design in a 3p.. Guys are either going solo with the Rincon in Dyneema counting ounces or they are packing the absaroka for two guys with the stove. I mean what’s the weight differences between a 3p and 4p? A few ounces? You guys have great designs and are dominating the teepee market. I just feel it’s not enough difference to generate the revenue for manufacturing

I hear what you're saying. But, this is a different design with a slightly different use case. It may not be for everyone, but I'm not sure I understand why you think we shouldn't make it when there is a use case for it for some people.

 

[blacktailcentral]

We have half floors for all of our tents (no mesh). Is that what you are asking about?

Full floor for the 4 person tent would be sweet! Just a thought appreciate the great products you guys make!

 

[Brad@Argali]

Full floor for the 4 person tent would be sweet! Just a thought appreciate the great products you guys make!

gotchya! yeah you can get a full floor by running to half floors as well.

 

[david2duck]

I was lucky enough to get selected to test the Lemhi 3p this fall. It showed up Friday while I was out of town so I haven’t set it up yet. Here are some pics of weights.

Just the tent/stakes at 2lbs 2.1oz


A half floor at 6.6oz


Tent/stakes and 2 half floors at 2lbs 15.1oz


I’ll get some setup videos up this weekend hopefully. I’ll be using it on a couple hunts this fall but our big one will be 9 days in the Frank Church. We have 2 deer and 2 elk tags. We’ve used the Absaroka for a year or two now and will run the Absaroka next to the Lemhi so I’ll be able to give a head to head.

Thanks again Brad for letting us test this out.

 

[Fins_N_Tines]

I also was fortunate to be selected to test and review the prototype Lemhi 3 tent by Argali.

My first impressions out of the box:
- very silky hand feel. My current go to tent is a tarp tent, double rainbow which also is a 20 D nano rip stop silpoly, which Argali is also using a nano rip stop silpoly. However the Argali just has a better hand feel and doesn’t seem as crinkly.
- the tent with stakes comes in a tidy small package that’s only a little bit bigger than a Nalgene. See photo.
- I did a dry run set up in my backyard and was impressed that I got it up with the minimum stakes in under two minutes. Note: did not guy it out.

As you can see in the photo, I also set up my double rainbow tarp tent, which is a two man tent with a 50 inch wide floor. Maybe hard to tell in the photo but the Lemhi 3 is basically double the size of that two man tent.

I put in a regular wide sleeping pad to show sizing. I am 5’-9” and although the double pole design definitely gives the wall a steeper angle and creates more usable space, I did notice if I wasn’t close to the trekking pole when I sat up my head did make contact with the tent. More to come on this after real world use in the field. I will be using it for a couple nights with a hunting partner with both inserts next week, so should have more data.

If you have any questions or certain things, you would like me to make note of please let me know.

Adam

 

[PST9]

I also was fortunate to be selected to test and review the prototype Lemhi 3 tent by Argali.

My first impressions out of the box:
- very silky hand feel. My current go to tent is a tarp tent, double rainbow which also is a 20 D nano rip stop silpoly, which Argali is also using a nano rip stop silpoly. However the Argali just has a better hand feel and doesn’t seem as crinkly.
- the tent with stakes comes in a tidy small package that’s only a little bit bigger than a Nalgene. See photo.
- I did a dry run set up in my backyard and was impressed that I got it up with the minimum steaks in under two minutes. Note: did not guy it out.

As you can see in the photo, I also set up my double rainbow tarp tent, which is a two man tent with a 50 inch wide floor. Maybe hard to tell in the photo but the Lemhi 3 is basically double the size of that two man tent.

I put in a regular wide sleeping pad to show sizing. I am 5’-9” and although the double pole design definitely gives the wall a steeper angle and creates more usable space, I did notice if I wasn’t close to the trekking pole when I sat up my head did make contact with the tent. More to come on this after real world use in the field. I will be using it for a couple nights with a hunting partner with both inserts next week, so should have more data.

If you have any questions or certain things, you would like me to make note of please let me know.

Adam


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Hard to tell from the photos, will this fit 2 people with a stove and gear?

 

[jonnyviceroy]

Quickly recorded my first pitch and setup of the Lemhi 3p. This was my very first time taking it out of the stuff sack and pitching it. It was also my first time seeing it fully setup. I just recorded my genuine initial thoughts and impressions based on seeing it for the first time.

I’ll keep adding notes as I actually use it in the field and in varying conditions.

To preface, the things I look for in a tent and are important to me: Live-able space to footprint, ease of pitch, storm worthiness, weight and packability.

Many of those criteria require a lot of time to be able to test but I was quickly impressed with ease of pitch. With two guys each doing two corners and a pole I think it could be setup in under 60 seconds quite easily.

To further test it I had my wife try to set it up on her own without any coaching from me along the way. In under 3 minutes she had it figured out on her own and a solid pitch that required little to no adjustment. I’m pretty impressed and satisfied with the ease of pitch.

One awesome thing about the shared “vestibule” in the middle is the simple fact that you no longer have to deal with crawling over a buddy while sharing a tent. I think it will make getting out in the night or anytime easier without the added weight of an extra door. A small feature, but a notable one for me.

That’s all I’ve got for now but should have a lot more as we get some hunts underway shortly.

 

[jonnyviceroy]

Hard to tell from the photos, will this fit 2 people with a stove and gear?

I put up a video with three wide pads can give you an idea on space. It will fit two guys and a stove and gear depending on how much gear you intend to put in there.

 

[Gmr777]

I put up a video with three wide pads can give you an pidea on space. It will fit two guys and a stove and gear depending on how much gear you intend to put have

Haven’t seen any specs on measurements. Do you have the length, width, height?

 

[jonnyviceroy]

Haven’t seen any specs on measurements. Do you have the length, width, height?

I have not seen any official specs either. Made some quick measurements and laid out a comparison for you to get an idea. Keep in mind my specs on the Lemhi could vary slightly from official specs later on because I just roughly measured it. The other thing I will say too is measurements are helpful but not apples to apples. Especially because of the more vertical walls on the Lemhi. Something like liveable space is a more difficult metric to quantify but does make a large difference.