My side of the BlackOvis/Camofire story - Podcast and Q&A

[Reburn]

I didnt listen to the podcast but I know how a good business can be tanked by a PE firm that only cares about ROI.

Thank you for telling us what happened.

 

[EastHumboldt]

For anyone hating on the OP. Cut him some slack, and if you don’t care about the podcasts then don’t listen to them. He made the effort to do a condensed “Cliffs Notes” version in post #7. That’s more than most would do. I don’t recall Remington getting ahold of me and trying to explain when they fell apart. He obviously wants to explain what happened and has some sense of loyalty and obligation to his customer base on Rokslide, even if if circumstances made it so he couldn’t help everyone he wanted to at the end. I bought a few things from BO and they were great to deal with.

 

[BRTreedogs]

@ktowncamo

I’m one that was shocked by all this going down. And disappointed in the paying of returns and vendors.

I’d always had such good interactions with you.

In short.
What would lead me to be inclined to do business with you or any brand your associated with moving forward?

I’m assuming you are still associated with Crispi?

 

[Reburn]

What would lead me to be inclined to do business with you or any brand your associated with moving forward?

You just have to weigh if he is providing goods in the future that you need.

I feel for him some. PE firms come in and promise everything including a captial infusion to grow. You think it will be good and allow you to grow. What generally happens is they meeting and report you to death riding you to get the ROI back in a timeline that frankly doesnt take the health of the business into consideration and will break you in the progress.

I have watched it happen to close personal friends. It happens in the construction industry all the time.

 

[BRTreedogs]

You just have to weigh if he is providing goods in the future that you need.

I feel for him some. PE firms come in and promise everything including a captial infusion to grow. You think it will be good and allow you to grow. What generally happens is they meeting and report you to death riding you to get the ROI back in a timeline that frankly doesnt take the health of the business into consideration and will break you in the progress.

I have watched it happen to close personal friends. It happens in the construction industry all the time.

I really want some lapponias.
But I’ve been holding off because of this.

 

[CorbLand]

You just have to weigh if he is providing goods in the future that you need.

I feel for him some. PE firms come in and promise everything including a captial infusion to grow. You think it will be good and allow you to grow. What generally happens is they meeting and report you to death riding you to get the ROI back in a timeline that frankly doesnt take the health of the business into consideration and will break you in the progress.

I have watched it happen to close personal friends. It happens in the construction industry all the time.

I really think people have this idea of how businesses work and then there is the reality of what is really happening.

Hopefully this sheds some light on how much control you lose over your business when PE takes over.

 

[WeiserBucks]

I really want some lapponias.
But I’ve been holding off because of this.

There's other vendors.

 

[CorbLand]

There's other vendors.

Vendors yes but if I remember correctly, Kendall is the importer so all those vendors get them from him.

 

[BRTreedogs]

There's other vendors.

Kendall was the exclusive importer to the US of Crispi
Unless something has changed every Crispi boot in the us is associated.

 

[WeiserBucks]

Kendall was the exclusive importer to the US of Crispi
Unless something has changed every Crispi boot in the us is associated.

GoHunt and Eurooptic now carry Crispi.

 

[BRTreedogs]

GoHunt and Eurooptic now carry Crispi.

Yes
But if Kendall is the importer he would still profit.
I’m not sure I’m willing to support him at this time.

 

[WeiserBucks]

Yes
But if Kendall is the importer he would still profit.
I’m not sure I’m willing to support him at this time.

I misunderstood your post earlier, carry on.

 

[fngTony]

@ktowncamo correct me if I’m wrong but in episode three I believe you said that you are not involved or invested with crispi anymore?