My second Seekins rifle that has issues

[Durable Gun]

I feel genuinely terrible for starting this thread...

 

[bojangles808]

Until u mentioned weight goal I was gonna say ph3 but since you are looking for a lightweight I suggest proof research elevation 2.0 (though u would not have the ARCA. Just get a ph3... If u happen to be an unlucky "3%" Glenn Seeking will treat you right.

So is that why it's called a PH3? Bc 3% of you are going to need the warranty?

 

[Timjohnson11]

Holy hell, for the last time, the warranty rate is 2%, not 3%…. Massive difference between the two… Seekins has had ~300 guns come back from ~15k guns sold.

1/2 of those (or 150 guns) came back for accuracy not being up to expectations, yet Glen stated separately that > 25% of those with “accuracy issues” were due to poorly installed rings/scopes. The other half came back for everything from stock imperfections to light firing pin strikes..

Tikka would have a higher “warranty” rate than Seekins if their policy was as liberal in coverage, and as easy/quick to file and handle.

 

[Durable Gun]

3%?

 

[Durable Gun]

Holy hell, for the last time, the warranty rate is 2%, not 3%…. Massive difference between the two… Seekins has had ~300 guns come back from ~15k guns sold.

1/2 of those (or 150 guns) came back for accuracy not being up to expectations, yet Glen stated separately that > 25% of those with “accuracy issues” were due to poorly installed rings/scopes. The other half came back for everything from stock imperfections to light firing pin strikes..

Tikka would have a higher “warranty” rate than Seekins if their policy was as liberal in coverage, and as easy/quick to file and handle.

Sorry for finding this humorous. You seem very passionate. I love it.

 

[Formidilosus]

Tikka would have a higher “warranty” rate than Seekins if their policy was as liberal in coverage, and as easy/quick to file and handle.

No- they wouldn’t. You are making excuses and coping. There are no threads with person after person with legitimate Tikka/Sako/Blaser/Sauer problems. When someone has a legitimate issue with a tikka, it’s- “that sucks, never seen it” from almost everyone.
I have seen hundreds of of Tikka’s- 1x 7mm-08, 1x 7mm RM, and 1x 223 were picky with ammo- that is they didn’t shoot nearly everything well, though they shot some ammo exceptionally well. The one 7mm RM was the only one sent back to Tikka, and they replaced the barrel without fuss. The 7mm-08 shot the ammo that the individual wanted it to shoot, so he didn’t care. The 223 is one of the school rifles and shoots everything to about 1.75 MOA 10 round groups, but shoots 77gr TMK’s to under 1.3 MOA- @Nine Banger used it to kill a bear.

No US manufacturer produces rifles with the quality and consistency of European, Scandinavian, and Finnish manufacturers. That is a fact.

 

[Timjohnson11]

No- they wouldn’t. You are making excuses and coping. There are no threads with person after person with legitimate Tikka/Sako/Blaser/Sauer problems. When someone has a legitimate issue with a tikka, it’s- “that sucks, never seen it” from almost everyone.
I have seen hundreds of of Tikka’s- 1x 7mm-08, 1x 7mm RM, and 1x 223 were picky with ammo- that is they didn’t shoot nearly everything well, though they shot some ammo exceptionally well. The one 7mm RM was the only one sent back to Tikka, and they replaced the barrel without fuss. The 7mm-08 shot the ammo that the individual wanted it to shoot, so he didn’t care. The 223 is one of the school rifles and shoots everything to about 1.75 MOA 10 round groups, but shoots 77gr TMK’s to under 1.3 MOA- @Nine Banger used it to kill a bear.

No US manufacturer produces rifles with the quality and consistency of European, Scandinavian, and Finnish manufacturers. That is a fact.

Not coping with anything. Just stating my experience and opinion. Perhaps I’m an outlier but I own handful of Seekins and Tikka. Every single one of my Seekins has outshot every single one of my Tikkas out of the box, and has been materially more forgiving when it came to ammo. Combine that with the fact that I’ve never had a single issue with any of my Seekins as far as function and fire, and I guess I’m just a bit loyal.

I genuinely believe the warranty rate would be higher for Tikkas than Seekins if Tikka’s policy was as accepting, liberal in coverage, and easy to file. I have a couple I certainly would have sent back over the years for being so picky.

I have a Tikka 6PRC getting built so certainly not a Tikka hater, just sharing my experience and views.

 

[wind gypsy]

2%, 3%, whatever. I’m positive my odds of getting something I wouldn’t be satisfied with is higher than either of those numbers. They were 0 for 2 on ph/ph2 for me. I only sent in for warranty once because the time and effort of effing with them was worth more than what a well chambered bartlein costs to not deal with it anymore.

Everyone wants a light bolt lift 60 degree action but that come with compromises in the ignition system as is evidenced.

I still like seekins but I think I’d rather have a ph2 at this point.