My gear/pack layout from base layers to binos

[FZMT]

Hey related question, with the vivo tundra boots do you ever double up on socks or are they warm enough without it. If so do you size them differently than the tracker forest esc? I generally do 44 in the summer ones, 45 in the lined trackers to accommodate thicker socks, and was debating 45 or 46 for the Tundras in case I need to double up on the socks.

For whatever it’s worth, I have the same size in the Tundra ESC and Forest ESC and wouldn’t want to size up on the Tundra. I also wouldn’t want to double up on socks in them, my feet would be too warm.

 

[Speaks]

For whatever it’s worth, I have the same size in the Tundra ESC and Forest ESC and wouldn’t want to size up on the Tundra. I also wouldn’t want to double up on socks in them, my feet would be too warm.

Ok awesome thanks.

 

[Dobermann]

I imagine that a hefty portion of the “tariff fee” DHL is charging is for importation paperwork/inspection/whatever on their end and not an actual tariff.

It’s a subpar situation without question.

Yep. My experience has been that if DHL or FedEx get involved in local duties and/or taxes, you pay a pretty hefty administrative charge in addition ... best to avoid those carriers if your order amount is above the minimum that usually gets picked up.

Will be interesting to see how the US de minimus pans out - Australia and NZ don't police it as much as they used to.

 

[Speaks]

Yep. My experience has been that if DHL or FedEx get involved in local duties and/or taxes, you pay a pretty hefty administrative charge in addition ... best to avoid those carriers if your order amount is above the minimum that usually gets picked up.

Will be interesting to see how the US de minimus pans out - Australia and NZ don't police it as much as they used to.

Spent a bit of time on the phone with DHL, their fee is something like $20, but they misclassified the item, it really should have been about $13 + $20 vs $93, but the process to get that corrected was not going to be worth the $60 so I just will eat the difference. Glad I am now stocked on socks.....

Was going to make a vivobarefoot order soon, will have to check on this before I do that one. It could really bite me.

 

[fwafwow]

Spent a bit of time on the phone with DHL, their fee is something like $20, but they misclassified the item, it really should have been about $13 + $20 vs $93, but the process to get that corrected was not going to be worth the $60 so I just will eat the difference. Glad I am now stocked on socks.....

Was going to make a vivobarefoot order soon, will have to check on this before I do that one. It could really bite me.

Check Sierra Trading for Vivo shoes. They often have them at a discount.

 

[Dobermann]

Check Sierra Trading for Vivo shoes. They often have them at a discount.

And the Vivo Barefoot discount thread in the Gear Deals subforum ...

 

[tkabzems]

Interesting options from norrona specifically the wool pants and smock.

Norrøna Kvinnherad wool pants for men

Our most quite hunting pants in a recycled wool/nylon blend. Breathable, spark resistant and silent with ventilation and practical pockets for outdoor use.

www.norrona.com

 

[Speaks]

Interesting options from norrona specifically the wool pants and smock.

Norrøna Kvinnherad wool pants for men

Our most quite hunting pants in a recycled wool/nylon blend. Breathable, spark resistant and silent with ventilation and practical pockets for outdoor use.

www.norrona.com

Wish they made a long version, would need a small for waist and L or XL for length.

 

[Undrgrndprdcts]

Alright so which socks are the best and available from etsy?

 

[Shraggs]

I grabbed a 4 pack of yak. The yak is a bit more money, 4 was better deal. Took a long time to get them too. I searched for yak.

They really are everything Form stated in terms of warm, wick and somehow feet are less sweaty.

 

[Ajsomp]

I grabbed a 4 pack of yak. The yak is a bit more money, 4 was better deal. Took a long time to get them too. I searched for yak.

They really are everything Form stated in terms of warm, wick and somehow feet are less sweaty.

Did you snag them from Etsy or mongulai?

 

[Shraggs]

Etsy. Seemed they’re a little more organized and seem less

 

[Undrgrndprdcts]

What sellers are good to go? Looking for yak socks on etsy.

 

[Pescetism]

What sellers are good to go? Looking for yak socks on etsy.

Etsy

Two or three orders from them without issue.

 

[Wprinkle]

What sellers are good to go? Looking for yak socks on etsy.

Amazon.com

This is where I got the Camel socks..

 

[jamie_wil]

so much good insight in all these posts! great for us newbs

 

[Dobermann]

What sellers are good to go? Looking for yak socks on etsy.

Look a little up the thread for the post by @fwafwow

 

[Speaks]

Etsy

Two or three orders from them without issue.

Was the order before or after the deminimus tariff change in late August?

 

[Pescetism]

Was the order before or after the deminimus tariff change in late August?

All were before the change.

 

[TradLife406]

Base layer and on body accessories

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Base layer- Aclima Woolnet top and bottom. I use netted base layers nearly 100% of the time now. The best performing base layers on the market, the wool version dries as quickly as thin synthetic and has all the other qualities of wool.

T-shirt- either a merino/synthetic blend from Duckworth or a blend synthetic from Scheels.

Socks- injinji Toe sock liners. Over top is Mongolian camel wool or Yak wool socks. Legitimately better in every regard of performance than merino. I carry and use when required a pair of waterproof socks.

Shoes/boots- Almost 100% of my use is with Vivo Barefoot Tracker Forest ESC’s. The next most used is Inov-8 Roclites of various models. Everything I wear is a flexible and minimal shoe.

Scarf- Is a cotton shemagh.

Toboggan- Two that I use- both are hand knit wool versions.


Gaiters- Fjallraven waxed G1000 canvas.


Gloves- Standard deer skin or thin cow leather work gloves, or Hestra Deerskin Wool Tricot gloves for most uses. Hestra Wakayama leather gloves with wool liner for cold.




Almost nothing listed here will change. In really cold weather and deep snow I will wear Mukluks, and potentially add a thicker base layer if I will be stationary. Gloves or mittens might change depending on conditions or actively. But, overall 20 years of constant searching and experimenting has lead to these categories, if not the exact items.

Which vivo are you using in November for Montana? Love the leather trackers. Been awesome for warm weather. I really don't want to go back to a traditional boot for late season elk.