Bulls in the crazies were fired up on monday morning. lots of hunters and had to go in 4-5 ridges over every morning to get into elk. The camp next to me found a group of 4 bulls together sunday night and killed to 6 points, put the tape on the bigger one and it grossed 360...I could never get the bulls on monday to come in. They just wouldnt respond to my calls. I would here them bugle, and throw out a small bugle back, 5 minutes later they would bugle in a different location. The wind was in my face the whole time. Seems like the bigger of the 2 was working his way up the drainage with some cows? Tried cow calls and they wouldnt respond to those either. Any suggestions? I came back for a few days to hunt the bull mnts with my buddy, they havent started up here yet.