MT drawing results are posted

[MNGrouser]

I got lucky and drew my deer tag again. My older brother drew his first Montana tag so we will get to hunt together this fall. Unfortunately, my dad was unsuccessful this year.

 

[bsnedeker]

The antelope reads first and only choice for the 900-20 tag and these tag read first choice only. That and is a pretty big word in the sentence for the antelope tag and was left out on the elk application I think they messed up bad but it sounds like the commission is going to start by it and people are getting screwed. So now the question is do the permits go to the surplus list or are they gone because the point of all this was over crowding


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You think there are still tags left? I kind of doubt it, but it's possible. They would go to the surplus draw if they were left over.

A lot of people don't put in second choices (myself included) because they are a waste of time, so odds for those guys went up significantly. In retrospect I wish I had put in for a breaks tag this year, might have actually drawn!

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[cgasner1]

You think there are still tags left? I kind of doubt it, but it's possible. They would go to the surplus draw if they were left over.

A lot of people don't put in second choices (myself included) because they are a waste of time, so odds for those guys went up significantly. In retrospect I wish I had put in for a breaks tag this year, might have actually drawn!

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I know guys that pull good tags on second choice if you know where to look. This was the first year that I haven’t had a second choice due to them changing the have to hunt it I didn’t wanna be tied down with that particular choice. The unit we apply for I had a 20 dollar bet with a buddy it would have left overs that was before this mess


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[bsnedeker]

I know guys that pull good tags on second choice if you know where to look. This was the first year that I haven’t had a second choice due to them changing the have to hunt it I didn’t wanna be tied down with that particular choice. The unit we apply for I had a 20 dollar bet with a buddy it would have left overs that was before this mess


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Last year there were 0 successful second choice bull permits given out.

But I do see your point, with the changes they made this year so you are limited to only hunt the permit you draw there are probably people being a lot more picky with what they are applying for, so those less-desirable units that have lower elk densities and/or less public land will probably see fewer applicants. But few enough that there are leftovers....I don't know about that.

I guess we'll find out soon enough, it's going to be interesting to look at how people applied regardless of whether there are leftovers!

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[cgasner1]

I feel like fwp added a lot more of these tags than people would with the change of you must hunt it if you draw. I believed that was why they did first choice only on it. Now I’m hoping they don’t go into the surplus side because the entire point of all this was due to over crowding so why would these permits go into the surplus


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[bigsky2]

Last year there were 0 successful second choice bull permits given out.

But I do see your point, with the changes they made this year so you are limited to only hunt the permit you draw there are probably people being a lot more picky with what they are applying for, so those less-desirable units that have lower elk densities and/or less public land will probably see fewer applicants. But few enough that there are leftovers....I don't know about that.

I guess we'll find out soon enough, it's going to be interesting to look at how people applied regardless of whether there are leftovers!

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I can think of one unit in particular in the central part of the state where they are giving out a ridiculous amount of archery permits. I'd be shocked if there aren't leftover permits. NR get first chance at those too. I feel bad for the NR that draw that permit and think they've really got something. Its going to be a complete shit show. I have yet to hear of any residents that applied for a former 900 district and didn't draw. The only ones I know of that were unsuccessful were the ones that had their applications get "lost".

 

[bsnedeker]

I can think of one unit in particular in the central part of the state where they are giving out a ridiculous amount of archery permits. I'd be shocked if there aren't leftover permits. NR get first chance at those too. I feel bad for the NR that draw that permit and think they've really got something. Its going to be a complete shit show. I have yet to hear of any residents that applied for a former 900 district and didn't draw. The only ones I know of that were unsuccessful were the ones that had their applications get "lost".

Very good point. Everyone I know is avoiding those areas like the plague.

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[Wib]

Good luck to all who have drawn. It's just gotten too expensive for me to justify. I got hooked on bowhunting 410 on private land and can't justify the fee which has doubled. I have limited time, no time for scouting and a lone hunter. Just doesn't work anymore. Had a brother in Missoula and now he's gone too, along with the quality of the hunting compared to when I first started hunting out there.

 

[Kilboars]

Sounds like they just sent out an email to fix the problem.

All you got cut out for second and third choices now get tags?


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[406RoadToad]

Email:

FWP fixing error in drawing process for elk permits​ HELENA – After deer and elk permits were drawn Thursday, Montana Fish, Wildlife & Parks uncovered an error in the drawing process affecting less than three percent of applications across the state in 10 hunting districts. This year the Fish and Wildlife Commission changed several elk hunting districts to “first and only choice” for applications, meaning if hunters want to hunt any of these districts, they forfeit the option to list a second or third choice on their application. Due to an error in the current licensing system regarding “first and only choice” hunting districts, hunters who applied for these districts were able to submit second and third choices. Hunters who did submit second and third choices on their applications for a “first and only choice” district were removed during the draw. The mistake affected 10 hunting districts and 2,482 applications out of the 83,017 total statewide. FWP is moving away from the current licensing system as part of the administration's effort to modernize state government. “As soon as FWP became aware of the technical glitch, our licensing staff worked around-the-clock to fix it and make it right with hunters who were inadvertently removed from the draw,” said FWP Director Hank Worsech. Impacted applicants initially didn’t see results for the elk draw in their MyFWP account. Until the situation is resolved, those individuals will see temporarily that they were unsuccessful in the draw. Any hunter who drew a permit in yesterday’s draw will not lose it. Here’s what FWP is doing to address the problem:​ Hunters who submitted applications and are eligible for districts 411-21, 447-21, and 595-21 and entered second and third choices will receive a permit because the number of permits unallocated after the draw is greater than the number of applicants who were removed from the draw. Similarly, the 270-45 permit is unlimited, so applicants will all receive a permit. Hunters who submitted applications for districts 411-20, 417-20, 417-21, 426-20, 799-20, and 799-21 and were removed from the draw will be entered into a random drawing next week. Those who are unsuccessful in this second drawing will receive bonus points. Under administrative rule, Director Worsech has the discretion to issue permits up to 10 percent above the quota. This 10 percent will be allocated in these second drawings. “The fairest solution to this error is to use my discretion to give all impacted hunters the shot at a permit they’re owed,” Director Worsech said.​