MSR pocket rocket vs omnilite ti

[William Hanson (live2hunt)]

Anyone know the difference in weight between these with fuel? I saw Aron using the omnilite on fb and looked it up. Its quite a bit heavier but I believe that is with the bottle and pump. I'm just wondering how closely they even out with fuel for 5, 7, and 10 days.

 

[justin davis]

Two different stoves here. A better comparison to the omnilite would be the MSR dragon fly. A multi fuel use stove.

 

[William Hanson (live2hunt)]

I understand they are different stoves I am simply curious about a weight comparison.

 

[luke moffat]

If I am expecting cold weather consistently then I run liquid fuel (owned a omni-lite ti but run the Soto liquid fuel stove now personally) but the vast majority of the time i use canister....not so concerned about the weight difference but generally for most of my trips I can do a week on a 230 gram isobutane canister with my wife which is 12 oz which is less weight than what I use for a liquid fuel stove for the amount of fuel I'd need for that long of trip as well. But more importantly than weight difference how fast it is to setup and get a canister stove running. No pumping/no priming on a canister like you do for a liquid fuel. Its mostly personal preference. For me though I have and use liquid fuel stove, but for me is more of a necessary evil when iso just doesn't like to burn in the cold, than something I gravitate to.

 

[William Hanson (live2hunt)]

If I am expecting cold weather consistently then I run liquid fuel (owned a omni-lite ti but run the Soto liquid fuel stove now personally) but the vast majority of the time i use canister....not so concerned about the weight difference but generally for most of my trips I can do a week on a 230 gram isobutane canister with my wife which is 12 oz which is less weight than what I use for a liquid fuel stove for the amount of fuel I'd need for that long of trip as well. But more importantly than weight difference how fast it is to setup and get a canister stove running. No pumping/no priming on a canister like you do for a liquid fuel. Its mostly personal preference. For me though I have and use liquid fuel stove, but for me is more of a necessary evil when iso just doesn't like to burn in the cold, than something I gravitate to.

That makes sense. So by what you are saying the fuel and stove weigh more and are more of a PITA to use with liquid stoves but are better for consistent subfreezing temps, correct?

 

[Yellowknife]

Can't speak specifically to the Omnilite, but in my experience, a lightweight liquid fuel stove starts getting close in weight about the time you have to throw in the third 220 gm fuel canister for the PR. i.e. usually somewhere around 7-10 days for two guys.

An example for a 2 guys x 7 day trip (using my simmerlite, which is similar wt I think):

PR + 2 fuel canisters (16 oz fuel) = about 27 oz

Simmerlite + windscreen + 20 oz fuel bottle = about 29 oz

For below treeline use, the PR usually is more efficient. For windy areas, the Simmerlite starts to win out because I can use a windscreen. I suspect the Omnilite would also be in that ballpark +/- a couple oz.

For short trips, the PR or similar stoves are always a little lighter.

Yk

 

[William Hanson (live2hunt)]

Thanks YK that's exactly what I was wanting to know. You saved me $170+ to experiment on my own.

 

[Yellowknife]

That makes sense. So by what you are saying the fuel and stove weigh more and are more of a PITA to use with liquid stoves but are better for consistent subfreezing temps, correct?

That's basically it. For consistent sub-freezing temps it starts to become more of a pain to try and keep the canister fuel warm, that it would be to just prime a liquid stove and carry on...



The other minor advantage that a liquid stove has is the ability to either empty or top off the fuel. No partially fuel canisters floating around the gear box like you get with canisters. I pretty sure that's why there are still plenty of guides using them.

Yi

 

[justin davis]

Yea I think I'm the end the canister stove wins in the weight category.


The fuel stove wins in cold weather and if you want to use it for some real cooking (simmering, frying). As opposed to just boiling water.