Moving - Ann Arbor Michigan vs. St. Louis?

I have lived in St. Louis for my entire life but live in St. Louis County. The rough parts of the city are North City. When you hear about bad shit most of the time its from that area. There are some cool areas in the city to live though. As far as living goes look into all the suburbs in the county. There is a mix of Liberal and Conservatives people all over the city. The further out of the city you get the more conservative it gets.

Fishing and hunting you are looking at a minimum 1 1/2 hours out of the city heading West but there are some closer opportunity's if you cross river into IL. The Ozarks has incredible access for fishing small streams and big lake access. Plenty of conservation land for hunting as well. North of I-70 has the biggest deer. 4ish hour drive south to Arkansas has insane trout fishing on White River along with Norfork and Bull Shoals Lakes. Current River and Upper Meramec make for some incredible floats and fishing. Feel free to PM me with any specific questions and I will answer them if I can.
 
I’d take mo every chance and that’s coming for some one born and raised in southern mi… a move is in my future


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Deer hunting in Michigan blows. While I dint know about MO hunting I do know your close to some top states and about 6 hours closer to western hunting.


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I got "stuck" in St.Louis for 15 years after finishing College there, and marrying a local girl. Summer's are absolutely brutal. 2.8M people - that's far too much for me. Traffic is awful. Like anywhere one lives, you can make it work, but it wouldn't be my choice to live there. I'd take MI any day.
 
I lived near St. Louis for 12 years. I also visit there usually 2-3 times a year. If you think traffic is bad there, you don't know what bad traffic is.
 
I lived near St. Louis for 12 years. I also visit there usually 2-3 times a year. If you think traffic is bad there, you don't know what bad traffic is.
Just because traffic is worse elsewhere doesn't mean it's not awful in St.Louis - it just means you're acclimated to really horrendous traffic in another location. Simple really.

Can guarantee traffic is far better in Ann Arbor than in St.Louis...
 
Lots of good, accurate info already posted here about STL region. I was born and raised in the STL area, South County specifically. Raised our daughters in a SW STL region suburb, Fenton. Great area, outside of the main traffic areas but still close enough to get into "the city" if you need to. Ten years ago after my youngest got out of high school, we moved about 5 miles SW to a smaller community named High Ridge (in Jefferson County). It is in a different county, with lower taxes than STL County, but very conservative policitally, sort of in the country, but not really. We can get to downtown STL if we ever need to, in about 25 minutes. I love living here, we're near-ish the city but not part of it, but can utilize it if we want to. Missouri has tons of public lands and waterways, a great conservation agency, and fairly inexpensive standard of living. I'd highly recommend you check it out, especially the northern Jefferson County area. Good luck!
 
MO is definitely better from a proximty to opportunity for hunting and fishing. Ann Arbor is nice especially with U of M there. I spent a lot of time for work in St. Louis a few days a week for a couple of years. St. Louis is a shit hole. But the outlying towns can be nice.
 
I live on the Illinois side but have worked in Arnold, MO for 14 years. If I get the chance to move to MO I wouldn't be opposed to shopping around Arnold/Fenton area. If you're working from home traffic isn't a worry. I'd look South or West of St. Louis but get out of St. Louis.
 
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