Moose bullet for tikka .243

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[MtnW]

I would like to say that I underestimated your ability to post something even less intelligent…. But you did not disappoint.

Form,
Not sure how you can do your lengthy write up on your First Ever elk hunting adventure over on 24 HR CF , describing how you fell off mountains, barely survived your hunt which many of us here did similar hunts when we were twelve years old . Then just a short ten years later you are a self proclaimed expert on hunting big game constantly posting on your self proclaimed expertise .

Many of us here have actually done a lot of big game hunting. Form, your claim of killing “HUNDREDS” of big game animals in just the past ten years just doesn’t add up. So as you say, you have killed hundreds of big game animals such as moose, caribou, grizzly, elk, mule deer, all 200+ animals in just a short 10 year period???

We take a lot of 7-14 day hunts for moose, sheep,elk, mule deer. Most 7-14 day hunts are for only one animal. We take two or three of these hunts per season. In ten years we kill maybe 30-40 big game animals.

Form. With the limited seasons, limited permits, limited amounts of time, with travel time etc. , how does one go from a novice first time hunter 10 years ago to now a self proclaimed internet expert hunter having killed HUNDREDS of big game, including moose, mule deer,caribou, bears, elk etc. The circles I participate in , Wild Sheep Foundation, SCI, RMBS, DSC, RMEF, all have groups of very well traveled and accomplished big game hunters. None of the these associations members that I know from over the years go on enough hunts to kill 20 big game animals a year. This is what you proclaim. Form, let’s see your pics. Simple , just show us your top five moose, grizzly, Mtn sheep, elk, caribou, mule deer. Once you substantiate your claims and post these pics I will quit calling B.S. on you and give a apology on this forum.

 

[MTniko]

If you can hang tight for a little, the new Sierra 107tmk would be a rad option!

 

[Treeman_MG]

If you can hang tight for a little, the new Sierra 107tmk would be a rad option!

Hopefully I will get my hands on some before my hunt!

 

[S-3 ranch]

I don’t think it really matters what bullet you shoot , just put it in the right place and keep shooting until it’s dead on the ground . 100gr partition or a Barnes TTSX ,
Everybody always says you need a 300wm on nilgai down here, and I have seen plenty killed with .270 , 303 British, 8x57 and they are tougher than moose, because they are thick tough skinned compared to a moose

 

[BAKPAKR]

I was just on the Swift Bullet website looking for other things and saw that they have a 90 gr .243 Scirocco II. Turns out that you can get factory ammo loaded with that bullet. While I have never used that particular bullet, I did shoot a 6x7 point bull elk with a 300 gr .429 Swift A-Frame (muzzleloader), and I was impressed with the performance. The bullet in the photo below was recovered near the hip from a frontal shot towards the center of the chest.

You might email Swift with specific questions about the 90 gr Scirocco. I emailed them once about their handgun bullets and I got a call back from some guy named Bill Hober. Turns out that he was the president of the company. We talked for about a half hour and I got some good information on what he thought a bullet should do.

Note: I did try 1st Gen 180 gr Sciroccos in a 300 RUM and couldn’t get them to shoot that well. In hindsight, I probably should have given my barrel a good cleaning before testing like I do before shooting Barnes bullets.

 

[glock233]

I was just on the Swift Bullet website looking for other things and saw that they have a 90 gr .243 Scirocco II. Turns out that you can get factory ammo loaded with that bullet. While I have never used that particular bullet, I did shoot a 6x7 point bull elk with a 300 gr .429 Swift A-Frame (muzzleloader), and I was impressed with the performance. The bullet in the photo below was recovered near the hip from a frontal shot towards the center of the chest.

You might email Swift with specific questions about the 90 gr Scirocco. I emailed them once about their handgun bullets and I got a call back from some guy named Bill Hober. Turns out that he was the president of the company. We talked for about a half hour and I got some good information on what he thought a bullet should do.

Note: I did try 1st Gen 180 gr Sciroccos in a 300 RUM and couldn’t get them to shoot that well. In hindsight, I probably should have given my barrel a good cleaning before testing like I do before shooting Barnes bullets.


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Scirocco is pretty much the opposite of what you want for moose, unless you like slower kills and tracking.

This is too tough:

 

[BAKPAKR]

Scirocco is pretty much the opposite of what you want for moose, unless you like slower kills and tracking.

This is too tough:

Our experience on moose definitely differs.

 

[glock233]

Our experience on moose definitely differs.

What’s the point of using one of the toughest bonded bullets on an animal with just 4-5” of meat protecting vitals? Are you shooting moose wearing body armor?

 

[nw nm hunter]

I would use a partition, but currently im working on a 108eldm in a 6mm creed that I've heard works well on elk. The grenade effect on the lungs can be a powerful thing.

 

[Pnw_heli]

Another AK resident here, 26 years now. Have been all over the state for work, lived in the some of the villages, etc..

Granted, this anecdotal evidence is decades old, I think it leads to this; with all the data on this site from the various 6mm kills, pick a bullet and work up a load with a temp stable powder. You’ll be fine. Also, I’d rather shoot a charging bear in the head with a 243 than a 10mm. Shit, a guy did that on Chichagof with a bolt gun in 6.5 Grendel a few years ago….

If it’s the guy from Hoonah I know him. Scary situation.

as someone who has also logged a lot of village time the stories I’ve heard were about harvesting moose “with a 22 in the eye.” I never witnessed this first hand but I do generally have big respect for the natives that responsibly use their land/allotments for subsistence. *for me* it’s not to judge if they want to do it with an atlatl, an ancient Mauser, or a 460 mag hand cannon.

 

[Fmuguira]

If I was going to hunt moose with a 6mm caliber I d be using a 95 or 100 gr partition; whichever one shot best in my rifle. I believe the partition provides the best of both worlds…. Quick expansion for shock and bleeding AND penetration with the back half of the bullet for more blood leakage and damage.

I d still prefer a larger caliber bullet like a 270 or 7mm something just because of more frontal area.

Good luck.

 

[AZ_Hunter]

Form, let’s see your pics. Simple , just show us your top five moose, grizzly, Mtn sheep, elk, caribou, mule deer. Once you substantiate your claims and post these pics I will quit calling B.S. on you and give an apology on this forum.

 

[S-3 ranch]

Form,
Not sure how you can do your lengthy write up on your First Ever elk hunting adventure over on 24 HR CF , describing how you fell off mountains, barely survived your hunt which many of us here did similar hunts when we were twelve years old . Then just a short ten years later you are a self proclaimed expert on hunting big game constantly posting on your self proclaimed expertise .

Many of us here have actually done a lot of big game hunting. Form, your claim of killing “HUNDREDS” of big game animals in just the past ten years just doesn’t add up. So as you say, you have killed hundreds of big game animals such as moose, caribou, grizzly, elk, mule deer, all 200+ animals in just a short 10 year period???

We take a lot of 7-14 day hunts for moose, sheep,elk, mule deer. Most 7-14 day hunts are for only one animal. We take two or three of these hunts per season. In ten years we kill maybe 30-40 big game animals.

Form. With the limited seasons, limited permits, limited amounts of time, with travel time etc. , how does one go from a novice first time hunter 10 years ago to now a self proclaimed internet expert hunter having killed HUNDREDS of big game, including moose, mule deer,caribou, bears, elk etc. The circles I participate in , Wild Sheep Foundation, SCI, RMBS, DSC, RMEF, all have groups of very well traveled and accomplished big game hunters. None of the these associations members that I know from over the years go on enough hunts to kill 20 big game animals a year. This is what you proclaim. Form, let’s see your pics. Simple , just show us your top five moose, grizzly, Mtn sheep, elk, caribou, mule deer. Once you substantiate your claims and post these pics I will quit calling B.S. on you and give an apology on this forum.

I find formidilosus , contributing to load testing , scope testing interesting
But his claim of killing hundreds of big game animals is probably something to
Bolster his cult of personality on the RS !
It’s all most impossible with out a depredation permit

“”A depredation permit allows you to lethally or non-lethally control protected wildlife (like certain birds or deer) that cause significant damage to agriculture, property, or pose public safety risks, requiring proof of damage and attempts at non-lethal deterrents before issuance, with federal permits for migratory birds handled by the
U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service (USFWS) and state permits (like in Texas) managed by agencies like Texas Parks & Wildlife (TPWD””

I don’t know if Form has one or not , but I am an older man who has probably been hunting longer then he has been alive?
And have killed or helped people kill thousands and thousands of animals
With every caliber from .223 - .375 with every weight and brand of commercial made bullets , to protect farm land and ranch property from deer , hogs, elk .coyotes, bobcats, aoudad, nilgai
I’m not going to throw any shade on him or his cult of personality
I don’t usually care to post or go digging up old photos of dead stuff but have a few on my phone , killing of hundreds of animals isn’t something that I can really consider fun ( it’s work and not fun) , so I usually only trophy hunt now and leave the blood lust things to the younger generation. Maybe Form is one of those people who has the proper permits? To do his bullet testing??

 

[fwafwow]

I find formidilosus , contributing to load testing , scope testing interesting
But his claim of killing hundreds of big game animals is probably something to
Bolster his cult of personality on the RS !
It’s all most impossible with out a depredation permit

This topic has been covered several times. I do believe culling/depredation has been involved, and "thousands, plural" was a mantra for some time for at least one member.

 

[thinhorn_AK]

I find formidilosus , contributing to load testing , scope testing interesting
But his claim of killing hundreds of big game animals is probably something to
Bolster his cult of personality on the RS !
It’s all most impossible with out a depredation permit

“”A depredation permit allows you to lethally or non-lethally control protected wildlife (like certain birds or deer) that cause significant damage to agriculture, property, or pose public safety risks, requiring proof of damage and attempts at non-lethal deterrents before issuance, with federal permits for migratory birds handled by the
U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service (USFWS) and state permits (like in Texas) managed by agencies like Texas Parks & Wildlife (TPWD””

I don’t know if Form has one or not , but I am an older man who has probably been hunting longer then he has been alive?
And have killed or helped people kill thousands and thousands of animals
With every caliber from .223 - .375 with every weight and brand of commercial made bullets , to protect farm land and ranch property from deer , hogs, elk .coyotes, bobcats, aoudad, nilgai
I’m not going to throw any shade on him or his cult of personality
I don’t usually care to post or go digging up old photos of dead stuff but have a few on my phone , killing of hundreds of animals isn’t something that I can really consider fun ( it’s work and not fun) , so I usually only trophy hunt now and leave the blood lust things to the younger generation. Maybe Form is one of those people who has the proper permits? To do his bullet testing??

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It would be cool to be able to shoot Aoudads, deer, hogs and Javelinas all day. I was just thinking and I don't know if Ive even killed 150 animals since 1992. For sure over 100 but definitely not thousands. in a normal/good hunting season I might get to shoot 4 animals. Some years more, some less. You Texas ranch guys have it figured out though, Its crazy how many animals are on those ranches. Last time I was down there I bet I saw 1500 animals.